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Also, Reid has said on numerous occasions that he actively followed Smith's career, even when the niners were losing and they were putting in and taking Smith out of the lineup seemingly every other game. Dorsey probably stopped evaluating Smith once that 05 draft was done. |
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There are plenty of examples of player's careers derailing on their 1st contract. Shit happens all of the time. Just like there are players that can't catch on. I know he's coming back from an injury right now.
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Yep, **** that guy, I knew we weren't getting Ben Coates but I sure as hell expected a lot more than we got from Fasano, dudes a bust.
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Thinking Fisher was a bad pick and thinking the 2 picks we traded for Alex Smith have a lot of value do not, and never will, equal wanting to draft a QB in the 1st round last year. |
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04-03-2014, 04:12 PM | #185 |
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Please don't bring up Jimmy Clausen again. Admit the mistake and move on.
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I even said if Clausen goes into the wrong situation he'd fail
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04-03-2014, 04:42 PM | #188 |
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I agree with that. I think some situations are tailor-made for success, and some are just a bust waiting to happen. But I also think some guys are universal failures (Sanchez comes to mind, and Clausen's probably on that list, although I was in favor of it at the time).
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Clausen, for example (and this is all JMO), would have succeeded on a team where he was allowed to sit and learn for a year. I even think that he would have succeeded on the Panthers had he been given more than a year. Instead he was drafted, started (on a shitty team) and then replaced my the #1 overall pick after a year. I think he would have succeeded on a team like the Chiefs, where he wouldn't have been expected to start in the 1st year. He would have been able to work with Weis and get acclimated to the NFL. Brady Quinn is the same way. And no...I'm not going homer just because they're both Irish QBs. |
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If you want to get into specific guys, I think Sanchez would've failed basically anywhere. And he definitely would have failed here. Seriously, think about the teams we fielded from 2009-2012 - there was no happy end to that story here... Similarly I think Clausen would've failed basically anywhere. And he falls into the same basic roster window here that Sanchez does. That would not have been a good landing spot. At all. Beyond that I think there's a combination of problems, both psychological and physical, that would've precluded either one from early success in virtually any situation. And I think Geno will fail in New York. Believing what I do now about his mental makeup, I think there are only a limited number of places that would've been good for him. Although I do think here may have been one of them. But as I said at the time he was drafted, I can't think of a worse situation than the Jets for him. But who knows, maybe he'll be fine in the end. Stranger things have happened. Either way, we're stuck with Alex Smith. And just because I think those guys (meaning Clausen and Sanchez) were basically doomed to failure doesn't mean that I believe everyone who busts was or is. I was agreeing with you in my last post, after all. Last edited by keg in kc; 04-03-2014 at 05:34 PM.. |
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Interesting thread. I felt the trade for Smith was absolutely the best play last year and it worked out better than I expected. The real gem last year was getting Bray for virtually nothing. I still believe that one day we will see that arm in the starting lineup. I was not a fan of the draft but I've come around on Davis. I thought getting Sherman was a good move. I did not care for Kelce though. I watched enough film to conclude that Schwartz wasn't worth trying to keep and the only FA I'm sorry to see gone is McCluster, because I don't think we are going to get better in the return game regardless. He's got what it takes in punt returns and those returns usually come early in the season anyway. The big mistake was not going all in to pry Gordon from Cleveland. I honestly believe a #1 pick would have been worth it and it would have made a difference in the season. I don't think had we had Gordon that we would have lost both San Diego games, and that means we could have won the division and our playoff game would have been at home and perhaps the dynamics change drastically. I think, for cap purposes, we should move on from Hali and give his money to Houston. That probably happens anyway. As for Hunt, he did the right thing in the way he set this up with each of the big three reporting directly to him. That formula will be the league norm in 3 years at the most. I love the 'special projects' hire and I suspect that Bray is a big part of that focus. That's the long term play here. It's no guarantee, but the risk/reward is an intriguing one. Finally we have to think our division. It's always about winning now, not in 5 years. We have to have veteran leadership in our division. We cannot win without that. It's still win now and not later. Charles is the most unique back I have seen since OJ. Enjoy the ride because you may never see another like him again. He's got the perfect QB, the perfect HC and the perfect offense. It's a wonderful ride to the Hall of Fame. This years draft will be interesting. The fact that its deep helps. I expect Dorsey to once again pick up the pieces after the final cuts from loaded teams. I wouldn't be surprised to see the team try to trade up over Green Bay to grab one of the safeties. But since we still need the WR that's where we are heading and I'd pick Cook.
Lastly, looking at the league - I don't see how the Chiefs ever get to the Super Bowl without structuring the team to beat the Colts. That team, for perhaps years, will always stand in our way. You either have to score 50 points, or the secondary has to be second to nobody. Oh well, for what's its worth. |
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If you had put just THREE spaces in there, I would've read that post.
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