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It's likely that a few of these young pitchers won't stick, so knowing that, I wouldn't be terribly upset to move a few if it would allow us to longterm upgrade the SS position or add a LH'd starter.
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Kaminski is a HS arm. He won't be with the team until 2018. Gonzalez is the Wacha of this draft--the most ML ready/most likely to be a fast riser.
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If you believe Carpenter is your 2nd baseman of the future, what do you do with Wong? Or do you eventually transition Carpenter to 3rd when Freese departs, which is gonna happen IMO, and just move Wong up>
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06-14-2013, 09:57 PM | #2016 |
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Carpenter's bat doesn't profile at 3rd. You can ride this decision out for another season before you really have to commit.
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I'm guessing they view Siegrist as a pen guy, which is great with me, but it would be nice to have his stuff as a starter.
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He's done both, but he's only started five games at AA. All the others were in A ball. You can stretch him out over the offseason to see if he could fill that gap, too, but he'd need to work on his change.
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Yeah. He's a revelation.
I still think the following guys should compete for the rotation spots next year. Wacha, Rosenthal, Martinez. To be honest, it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to use a modified six man rotation. You need 12 months of pitching from spots four and five. You could stagger them in such a way that each only handles about four months of a SP load, thus keeping them rested for potential starts in the PS . Like this: Wacha pitches April-July, then gets sent down to Memphis and shut down for about four weeks. Then you can slowly build him back up once rosters expand. Rosenthal breaks camp as the long guy. After pitching in that role for about six weeks you transition him into the rotation, where he can hold that spot down for the remainder of the year. Martinez starts the in St. Louis then goes down once Rosenthal takes over. You can keep his outings shorter in AAA. Once Wacha gets rest call him back up to take over. And, should anyone need a DL spot/break, you have guys who can get called up/transition easily to fill it.
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Who gets to pitch in the pen or traded for bullpen help?
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06-14-2013, 10:26 PM | #2022 |
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Not Carlos Martinez.
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welllll that narrows it down.We only have 8 more to trade or throw to the pen.
I'll go next. Miller stays where he is.
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Well, I've never been a fan of Jenkins. His results have never matched the hype, and now he's on the DL w/ shoulder soreness. I'd be fine with trading him.
I really don't want us to trade Rosenthal or Martinez. Wacha seems like he'll eventually be a solid #3 who can gobble innings, and that's a valuable commodity as well. I think the organization would be well served to try and find Freese's replacement in the draft. If they want to try and package some of our pitching for a shortstop, great, but I don't see any long-term solutions that aren't major risks.
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The Cards have already moved Carson Kelly to 3b and they seem to really like Patrick Wisdom.
Moving Carpenter back to 3b when he's proven average to slightly above defensively at 2b would be foolish. He's been one of the few players you'll ever see to actually make the shift up the defensive spectrum and somehow not take a step backwards. As far as I'm concerned, Matt Carpenter is a 2b. Adams and Wong for Tulowitzki? !@#$ing done. The Rox don't have a 2b to speak of and Helton's on the way out. I'd probably include an arm as well if they needed it. Pick up Tulo and suddenly you have the 3-hole hitter that we need and possibly the premier defensive SS in MLB. Absolute worst case scenario is that he moves to 3b in 3 years to replace Freese when he departs.
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