Cardinals ***Official 2015 STL Cardinals Thread II*** - Page 149

**BigRedChief** · 10:46 PM

2011 World Series Championship
2012 NLCS. One win from another WS appearance.
2013 World Series. Two wins from another World Series Championship
2014 NLCS. Three wins from another WS appearance
2015 Clinched Central Division title and Home Field advantage in the playoffs. First team in MLB to win 100 games since 2011.

Made the postseason 11 times in the last 15 seasons.
Only 1 losing season since 2000.
Reached the World Series 4 times since 2004 and won as many championships (two) the past eight seasons as it did from 1965 to 2005.
Made the NLCS 9 times including the last 4 years 2011-2014
Three million attendance? Take it to the bank.
65 post season wins since 2004. 22+ wins more than any other team.

**BigRedChief** · 10-12-2015, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

No ****ing way.

Hey, Lackey is a gamer and I respect him. I really do. But he isn't even in the same stratosphere right now as Arrieta. Remember, if it had been June, Fowler had him for a 2 run shot ... everyone knew that ball was gone and the cool air killed it.

I realize Lackey has the Cubs numbers but you can't compare "grit" to whatever it is Arrieta is strutting out there ... which is currently the most unhittable stuff in big league history.

I wasn't comparing Lackey to Arietta. I was saying the chances of us winning agaisnt Arietta today is the same as the Cubs chance of winning tomorrow.

Hootie · 10-12-2015, 05:05 PM

I get what you're saying ...

Cubs will be heavy dogs, Cards probably at -135 tomorrow.

But the Cubs were -230 today ... so ... that's disgusting for a postseason game.

DJ's left nut · 10-12-2015, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Beating Lackey against the Cubs "someone" is going to be as hard as us beating Arietta.

Uh....no.

Lackey got beat by Tim Hudson last October. Or was it Jake Peavy. I don't remember - it was some sad sack walking husk of a formerly decent pitcher.

Jake Arrieta, OTOH, appears to be on another plane of existence. Worse still is that the guy !@#$ing knows it. I know as a Cards fan I was supposed to hate Mark Prior because he's a Cub - I just couldn't do it. That guy walked around the mound like he'd strike you out and then **** your wife just for the hell of it...presuming that he'd lower himself to **** someone that would marry you. He just controlled the game.

Arrieta has that going right now. That guy is absolutely certain his going to wreck your soul on the mound and for the last 10 weeks, he's been right.

**BigRedChief** · 10-12-2015, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Wacha still getting squeezed? Lol.

I think the Kzone for TBS is off kilter.

Hootie · 10-12-2015, 05:07 PM

I've honestly never seen anything like it. Not only does he have the stuff, but, unlike Kershaw, he also has the mindset. He knows he's a ****ing badass, he knows he's going to win, he knows you can't hit him ... and he's right.

It's like Wade Davis, but starter format. If the Cards hit him, it's pure luck, because, no matter the count, he turns every hitter into a pure guess hitter ... doesn't matter if it's 0-2, or 3-1

**BigRedChief** · 10-12-2015, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Uh....no.

Lackey got beat by Tim Hudson last October. Or was it Jake Peavy. I don't remember - it was some sad sack walking husk of a formerly decent pitcher.

Lackey in the post season is usually nails.

**BigRedChief** · 10-12-2015, 05:08 PM

What the hell is up with arietta all of a sudden.

George Liquor · 10-12-2015, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

What the hell is up with arietta all of a sudden.

Please be going full Rick Ankiel!!!!

DJ's left nut · 10-12-2015, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

What the hell is up with arietta all of a sudden.

I only saw it once, but his balance seemed off. It was on the 1-0 pitch to Holliday; he got his lower half out ahead of the top - kicked his leg way out there and it seemed to pull his top half across.

Odd balance from a guy that's appeared bulletproof for awhile.

And Heyward may have just missed his pitch...

jd1020 · 10-12-2015, 05:11 PM

I wonder if Arrieta is more worried about the 20mph wind blowing out than pitching.

DJ's left nut · 10-12-2015, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I've honestly never seen anything like it. Not only does he have the stuff, but, unlike Kershaw, he also has the mindset. He knows he's a ****ing badass, he knows he's going to win, he knows you can't hit him ... and he's right.

It's like Wade Davis, but starter format. If the Cards hit him, it's pure luck, because, no matter the count, he turns every hitter into a pure guess hitter ... doesn't matter if it's 0-2, or 3-1

The nearest I can remember is the summer 2005 - Chris Carpenter had a streak of about 20 starts where his ERA was below 1.50. Even when Carpenter was on, he carried himself like Arrieta is doing right now - just the lord of creation on the mound.

Comparing someone to vintage Carp is the highest compliment I can give a modern starter because Carpenter's bulldog mentality may be the most impressive thing I've seen in a decade. The guy just absolutely refused to ever cave in and was certain he'd beat you.

Arrieta looks like that but better.

HOLY SHIT!!! PERALTA DID SOMETHING!!!!

Hootie · 10-12-2015, 05:15 PM

I figured I might have reverse jinxed the Cubs with that bet ...

DJ's left nut · 10-12-2015, 05:17 PM

That's a big time AB from a guy with some holes in his swing. Getting that run in with a nice easy stroke and putting the ball in play is damn impressive for a kid who's natural inclination is to swing hard in the hopes that he runs into one.

DJ's left nut · 10-12-2015, 05:18 PM

Well, Wacha's stuff seemed to actually sharpen up after he gave up the HR.

He can make himself a legend if he goes out there and makes this stand up.

Jewish Rabbi · 10-12-2015, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I figured I might have reverse jinxed the Cubs with that bet ...

Nah... They'll probably just win by 1

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10-12-2015, 05:05 PM	#2222
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I get what you're saying ... Cubs will be heavy dogs, Cards probably at -135 tomorrow. But the Cubs were -230 today ... so ... that's disgusting for a postseason game.
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I've honestly never seen anything like it. Not only does he have the stuff, but, unlike Kershaw, he also has the mindset. He knows he's a ****ing badass, he knows he's going to win, he knows you can't hit him ... and he's right. It's like Wade Davis, but starter format. If the Cards hit him, it's pure luck, because, no matter the count, he turns every hitter into a pure guess hitter ... doesn't matter if it's 0-2, or 3-1
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DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-690901	Well, Wacha's stuff seemed to actually sharpen up after he gave up the HR. He can make himself a legend if he goes out there and makes this stand up. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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