NBA Offseason thread 2013 edition

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

I wish the 76ers would trade for Asik lol

Should have never traded for Noel. Asik would be a perfect fit if that didn't go down.

Makes no sense to me at all.

I may be overrating Jrue, but I thought he was supremely underrated.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

The 76ers were winning nothing with their current setup. They ended up with Noel and two possible lottery picks in the best draft of the decade. There's a good chance they could get two franchise players along with Noel, who can be an elite defensive center/rebounder.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

The 76ers were winning nothing with their current setup. They ended up with Noel and two possible lottery picks in the best draft of the decade. There's a good chance they could get two franchise players along with Noel, who can be an elite defensive center/rebounder.

It's not a bad idea for them. I'm fine with all the talent going to the East next year

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

The 76ers were winning nothing with their current setup. They ended up with Noel and two possible lottery picks in the best draft of the decade. There's a good chance they could get two franchise players along with Noel, who can be an elite defensive center/rebounder.

if they had never made that trade their roster would have been

PG - Jrue/Lou Williams
SG - Evan Turner/Lou Williams
SF - Iggy/Harkless
PF - Thad Young/Lavoy Allen
C - Vucevic/Hawes

even if Iggy walks, or they knew he was gonna, they could have did a sign and trade that yielded something back in terms of picks or depths that was not Bynum, and kept Harkless and Vucevic, and still packaged Jrue for Noel.

then you have: Hark, Vuc, Noel, MCW, etc.

They lost two prospects right now that will be better than anything they get next year, because you dont know their pick slots, but you can assume top 10. But there is a lot of teams tanking next year, so it's actually cooler to lose next year then it is for middle of the road teams to compete. So either way its going to be tough to get a top pick. And I'm not going to just assume they are getting Wiggins, and realistically if they dont get a top 5 pick than Vuc is better than anything they get, as it stands. They lost more than they gained in the last year, but a large margin.

[RustShack]

@DerekJ3031: BREAKING: Royce White's trade won't be official yet and @Highway_30 will be playing #YCapCity Weds night! 5:30 Valley Southwoods WDes Moines

I wonder if he will be in better shape.. Hopefully this is at least a step towards getting in shape if not.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

But hey... Maybe it was all Carlos Delfino

[ChiefsCountry]

Zilla keeps proving that he is a ****ing idiot.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Zilla keeps proving that he is a ****ing idiot.

Give me a break. The Rockets walked into last year's preseason an absolute nightmare. You take Harden off that team (pre-Howard) and the team is unbelievably mediocre.

The Rockets didn't have a strategy. Once their preseason mix looked like a disaster, they gave up the moon, sun, and stars to get Harden. They're doing the same with Howard. In a superstar-driven league, it might lead to some playoff wins. But sorry, I'll save the kudos for teams like OKC and Indiana that are doing it organically. Hell, even the Heat success can be largely attributed to an incredible strategy in getting perfect role players on the cheap that fit a specific purpose.

Throwing money and picks around shows aggressiveness and it's ballsy. But I'll save Houston kudos until we see what they can do on the cheap with the support players. Right now, way too much credit is being given for a very, very mediocre at best group.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

And I don't want them to be built like the Pacers. Harden-Howard > George-Hibbert

And the Rockets role players destroy theirs

[mcaj22]

no they dont

Stephenson, Copeland, Hill, Granger, etc > Parsons, Lin, Asik

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

no they dont

Stephenson, Copeland, Hill, Granger, etc > Parsons, Lin, Asik

That's fine. I'm not a fan of any of them. Especially Stephenson and Copeland. Maybe my Rockets homerism is showing, but I guess I can't help but be excited.

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by Rudy Was Offsides

That's fine. I'm not a fan of any of them. Especially Stephenson and Copeland. Maybe my Rockets homerism is showing, but I guess I can't help but be excited.

David West is also better than any role player on the Rockets. You definitely have the better 1-2 by far though.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

David West is also better than any role player on the Rockets. You definitely have the better 1-2 by far though.

No no no. David West was an example of Indiana just throwing money at Free Agents. He must suck.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Rudy Was Offsides

That's fine. I'm not a fan of any of them. Especially Stephenson and Copeland. Maybe my Rockets homerism is showing, but I guess I can't help but be excited.

You should be. I don't like that teams can be built this way. But they can be. One of the things I don't like about the nba.

I think the road was rocky to get there. And right now it looks like a mish mosh of talent. Now that they know their big two, I'm sure their strategy can now revolve around building around them and cutting out those who don't . Which means scheme and knowing their role players. I guess it's the basketball purist that prefers teams be built around a scheme versus stacking the deck and then force fitting some scheme. Regardless, they kind of lucked into two huge superstars who actually complement each other nicely.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

You should be. I don't like that teams can be built this way. But they can be. One of the things I don't like about the nba.

I think the road was rocky to get there. And right now it looks like a mish mosh of talent. Now that they know their big two, I'm sure their strategy can now revolve around building around them and cutting out those who don't . Which means scheme and knowing their role players. I guess it's the basketball purist that prefers teams be built around a scheme versus stacking the deck and then force fitting some scheme. Regardless, they kind of lucked into two huge superstars who actually complement each other nicely.

They did luck into it, but they were building for the future even before Harden. Young FAs and 3 first rounders to go with Parsons.... Probably would have had future lottery picks and Toronto's pick this year. This wasn't a team shooting for mediocrity. They were building with young guys.