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If a team wants to make a winning push, they should probably start with the most important position on the field... if Alex wasn't worth the cost then I'll just stop here and let you think what you want to think, I'm so sick of these pointless arguments. Last year went from presumably "ok yeah the new crew got us a 5 game swing, 7-9! c'mon guys whats wrong with ya'll that's REAL improvement!" To "holy shit we've been blowing fools OUT these last few weeks and are now poised to dominate a playoff game!" That kind of change is ALL about the QB for any team... c'mon dude, give some credit where its due. |
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04-03-2014, 10:08 PM | #227 | |
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Never have heard of a team being built with the QB being the last piece. That was intentionally brought in just for that purpose. I am pretty sure it is suppose to be the first piece brought on.
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04-03-2014, 10:22 PM | #228 |
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I look forward to our super bowl rings then.
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04-03-2014, 10:31 PM | #229 | |
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Look at what KC did with the Jared Allen trade. We nabbed Albert, Charles, and that shitty Safety... Morgan or whatever. However I still feel that KC would have not drafted Brandon Flowers if not for the extra picks they gained. |
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04-03-2014, 11:04 PM | #230 |
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04-03-2014, 11:19 PM | #231 | |
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04-04-2014, 12:03 AM | #232 |
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Alex Smith failed to throw a touchdown in 6 games in 2013 (almost 38% of the games!); the Chiefs record in these games was 5 and 1.
Alex Smith threw for less than 200 yards in 5 games in 2013; the Chiefs record in these games was 4 and 1. The Chiefs defense allowed 23 or more points in 5 games in 2013; the Chiefs record in these games was 1 and 4. How does anybody credit Alex Smith with the Chiefs win/loss record in 2013, outside of not turning the ball over? The cost for Smith, by the way, is not just the two 2nd round picks- you need to factor in the opportunity cost of not spending a high draft pick on a QB in 2013; not spending a high draft pick on a QB in 2014; and, if Smith is given an extension, likely not spending a high draft pick on a QB until 2016 or 2017. Congratulations, Chiefs fans- all of your QBOTF hopes will now rest on low round picks and undrafted free-agent QBs. The whole concept of trading for another team's backup QB is a disaster and I can't believe that Chiefs fans aren't universally outraged. Smith in particular is a disaster (23 touchdowns in a "career" year and 0 touchdown passes in 38% of the games). And the coming contract extension is yet another disaster. Chiefs fans had better hope that Dorsey either puts together an all-time defense or pulls another Aaron Rogers out of his ass, because Smith will never be a franchise QB. |
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04-04-2014, 12:10 AM | #233 |
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Axl Smythe sucks like Tim Couch, give up hope all ye who enter...
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04-04-2014, 12:12 AM | #234 | |
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As of right now only ONE of those QBs will be a starter next year. Your argument actually shows how overrated and shitty our defense is. The Chiefs defense was able to beat on really, really, really shitty QBs and unprepared offensive systems for that week. Whereas Alex Smith had to keep them in both Denver games and the first SD games Alex Smith against Luck, Rivers, Manning: 11 touchdowns and 3 picks. The Chiefs defense in those four games gave up a bajillion ****ing yards and points. Because the Chiefs defense is the ****ing problem, not Alex Smith. |
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04-04-2014, 12:20 AM | #235 |
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No, the argument is that the Chiefs defense, not Alex Smith, determined the outcome of the games in 2013.
None of the QBs you mention play defense, by the way, so they have very little to do with Alex Smith's performance. If you want to discuss the defense on the opposing teams last year, that would have a lot more relevance to Alex Smith's performance. No need to look it up, I can tell you that the Chiefs played an incredibly easy schedule in 2013. Chiefs got out to a great start by defeating some really crappy opponents in 2013. |
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And let me guess, are you one of these Smith is to blame for the playoff loss, people? I'm not saying Smith is one of the best QBs in the league, but I'm also not gonna listen to people say he had little to do with the turnaround. He had as much to do with it as anyone else, and was one of the few people that can honestly say don't blame me for the playoff loss. |
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Name the QB that you wanted to draft last year.
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04-04-2014, 01:32 AM | #239 | |
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We have a lot of drafted players on our team and I personally like to see our team win off our own blood and drafted players, but sometimes if it takes just that 1 person to set your team over the edge (in the broncos case 10 players) then why not do it? I personally think we are missing a Top notch Tight end, a WR that can actually compliment Bowe, and maybe 1 more top D player for us to be super bowl caliber worthy.. And I don't think that's expecting too much after our performance last year since we did look like we could've made a run... |
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Even the biggest of critics have said the second half version of Alex Smith was better and different than any Alex Smith we ever saw in San Fran. Even if the Chiefs didn't pull off many wins the second half of the year, the way Smith played, we could have pulled most of those wins off with even just an average defense. Smith was one of the main reasons we were keeping games close. I NEVER thought Smith was capable of carrying a team, but he did. That being said… Smith is a QB that needs help around him to succeed. |
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