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This leads to a lot of confusion (and people talking past each other) on this issue with many supporters of same sex marriage conflating the two in an attempt to portray same sex marriage as the kind of inalienable right that it would be anti-American to deny (like it would be if we banned newspapers that print critical stories about our political leaders). But it's not that kind of right. Marriage is the kind of right that the legislature, in their wisdom, can fashion in any way that they rationally think is beneficial to society, just like they do with the criteria for collecting a SS check.
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No, that's not true. In any state where "being gay" is a valid enough reason (which is to say, states that don't require a reason), being straight is also a valid enough reason.
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name one time in the history of the world where someone was fired for being straight.
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04-30-2013, 11:42 AM | #244 |
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Are we talking about the law here or are we talking about whether people are assholes? Because when you used the phrase "it's legal to ..." and when other people were talking about "rights", I jumped to the conclusion that we were talking about the law.
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Name one time in the history of the world were someone has been fired for being heterosexual. Other the other hand, it is legal and people have been fired for being homosexual. you're wrong, just let it go.
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No, I don't think I'm wrong. Moving the goalposts like you're doing sounds more like spin and avoidance than what I've done.
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As to who gets fired for being gay, who got hired in the first place? If you don't like gays, you won't hire them then fire them later. Dumb point. I doubt even a handful of people have been fired in the past decade simply for being gay. Nope, no way. |
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What is he avoiding? He is completely correct. If it is your contention that the odds of a person being terminated due to their heterosexuality are so small as to be negligible, I would agree. I would also say the same for being fired due to being gay. It may happen, but it's incredibly rare.
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So, no such thing as discrimination toward the LGBT community... wow. Hell it is legal in 29 states, I believe.
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Yes, because an employer can totally tell off a resume or an interview if someone is gay or not. I suppose they could put a blank on the application to specify if one was gay or not, and then said employer would know not to hire them. That doesn't sound like discrimination at all though.
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How often does that happen? 1 time per year? If that? |
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so if something is a rare occurrence we don't need to worry about it? There have been several links to examples were people have been fired for being gay and there is no know occurrence EVER of someone being fired for being straight. In fact, the idea of someone firing a person for being straight is so astoundingly absurd that has even occurred to someone to put those specific words into law. tapping dancing with technicalities doesn't change reality
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people acting like this a debate class and just trying to win an argument instead of worrying about right/wrong. Pathetic.
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not really. You simply said that if someone doesn't like gay, don't hire them and problem solved...won't have to fire them. Your first post didn't equate for those factors, and neither did my reply. Not every gay person is obviously flaming gay.
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