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Thomas is faster and far more elusive, and you selling that he is the same as McCluster is sheer fabricated, stupid, bullshit.
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05-11-2014, 04:37 PM | #17 |
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Thomas has a chance to be our Tavon Austin except he was taken in the 4th round instead of 8 overall. He's not going to be a guy who comes down with the contested catch even 60% of the time, but he won't have to with his combination of speed and quickness.
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05-11-2014, 05:27 PM | #18 | |
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Sure. 8/100th's of a second faster to be exact. Wow. That's some serious difference right there. More elusive? You tell me: Against NFL players: DAT: Combine Measurements: McCluster 5'9" 172 lbs. 29 1/4" Arms 8 3/8" Hands 40: 4.58 Vertical: 37.5" Bench: 20 reps Thomas 5'9" 174 lbs. 29 7/8" Arms 8 1/2" Hands 40: 4.50 Vertical: 32" Bench: 8 reps So, bro, what do you think the difference is between 20 reps at 225 lbs. and 8 reps at 225 lbs.? And then, once your mind clears on that, tell me what a guy weighing 172 lbs. doing 20 reps at 225 lbs. would be? (Pretty ****ing strong is the answer if you are struggling with it.) Career college stats: McCluster Rushing: 304 attempts 1955 yards 6.4 ypc 15 TDs Receiving: 130 receptions 1703 yards 13.1 ypc 7 TDs Thomas Rushing: 243 attempts 1890 yards 7.8 ypc 26 TDs Receiving: 113 attempts 1296 yards 11.5 ypc 15 TDs Holy shit! For two guys of exactly the same height, weight, arm, hand, speed, etc., playing exactly the same positions for their respective college teams, those stats are amazingly close. ****ing weird. But, like you said, they are nothing alike. So, because it's you who said it, it must be true, right? Sure. Milkman said something. Close the book. Last edited by Saccopoo; 05-11-2014 at 05:41 PM.. |
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05-11-2014, 05:49 PM | #19 | |
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I'm pissed about not drafting Moncrief as much as you. And I'm probably the biggest hater of the De'Anthony Thomas pick of anybody on this board. But I can at least recognize the value and thought process behind Dee Ford, Aaron Murray, and the two fatties we drafted. You're off your rocker about every pick just because he wasn't the guy you wanted. |
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05-11-2014, 06:08 PM | #20 |
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Someone mark Sac's post for future findthedr Trevor Laws posterity.
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05-11-2014, 06:14 PM | #21 | |
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Fatty pick #2 at least has some mystery and excitement about it. Murray is a complete piss away of a pick. He's the same guy as Daniel. What the hell do we need a fourth QB for at this point? Total waste of a pick. I'm okay with Ford. However, it's a luxury pick and he's got a whole lot to prove in terms of doing anything other than rushing the passer to make the pick worth it. Just because Dee Ford says he's the best pass rusher in the draft doesn't make it so. And I liked Jackson over Filo anyway, though I understand that Filo gives you a bit more flexibility scheme wise and was probably the best guard prospect in this draft from a total skills standpoint. Best guard prospect versus the third/fourth/fifth best pass rusher, when the Chiefs had a serious hole at the OG spot versus Houston and Hali under contract? I'd be inclined to take the guard with the #23 pick at that point. And I'd be penciling Reilly in at ILB instead of Mays and dropping him in as pass rusher situationally. Guy had 9 sacks last year, to go along with 100 tackles, 16.5 tfl and an interception. By comparison, Ford had 10.5 sacks, 29 tackles and 14.5 tfl. That's a one trick pony. I mean, seriously...29 total tackles? That sucks. He's got a long way to go to be effective at the next level other than a situational pass rusher. Last edited by Saccopoo; 05-11-2014 at 06:27 PM.. |
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05-11-2014, 06:19 PM | #22 |
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The worst pass rusher in the league has a bigger impact on his team than the best guard in the league does.
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I'm just not all that impressed with Dee Ford in terms of his college production. He is invisible against the run, doesn't defend the pass well, doesn't make an impact other than the occasional sack and he's got an injury history which is significant enough that the NFL wouldn't allow him to participate in the Combine. If they were hell bent on taking a pass rusher, I'd rather have had Jeremiah Attaochu to be honest. We shall see. I just hope Dorsey knows what he's doing with these picks. From the outside looking in, they are somewhat uninspiring and questionable. |
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05-11-2014, 07:02 PM | #24 | |
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Also, I don't ****ing understand your approach to the draft. You take the easiest position to fill in the NFL (OG) and claim we needed to spend a 1st rounder in order to adequately fill the hole. Doing so means you can't spend that high pick on a blue-chip player at an important position, but that's okay with you, because you claimed in the forum mock draft thread that teams shouldn't waste lower-round picks on offensive linemen. And that's considering that most teams with successful offensive lines have them because they struck it rich on fatties who fell to them in the lower rounds or as undrafted guys. And that's not very hard to do at all. It happens all the time; the Chiefs just suck at it, that's all. 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 1st, 3rd. From LT to RT, the starters at each position and the round they went in. You would have us spend another goddamn 1st on a RG, but don't want to waste lower round picks on that position? |
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05-11-2014, 07:14 PM | #25 |
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Will Shields - 3rd round pick
Dave Szott - 7th round Brian Waters - URFA Tim Grunhard - 2nd round Good to great interior linemen can be found throughout the draft. Blowing a first rounder on one is silly, especially as it pertains to this draft and how stocked it was with playmakers on both sides of the ball. |
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Ford averaged under a sack a game in 2013 with a meager 29 tackles. That ain't a playmaker any more than a guard. |
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I'll tell you what. This season we should keep an eye on Xavier Su'a-Filo and his contributions to the Texans and compare that metric to what Dee Ford brings to the Chiefs. I say this knowing Ford is going to be a backup player initially on this team. Even knowing that, I feel very comfortable guaranteeing that Ford will impact our team more Su'a-Filo will his, and he's likely going to start. PS - If this whole linemen-associated-with-Sacc thing has just become a trolling mechanism, then congrats, because you're killing it. |
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05-11-2014, 09:51 PM | #28 | |
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This isn't some fantasy football type software. This is military grade data analysis and decision making software. The fact that Dorsey believes in this software is probably one of the reasons why he was hired by Clark. Clark is a numbers guy through and though. This software isn't just being used for draft decision making, the Chiefs are also using it to make decisions about free agency, how much to pay players, and who to let go. |
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