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Old 09-15-2006, 03:08 PM  
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Game-Plan: LJ all day--crossing and seam patterns to Gonzo & Eddie

With Huard, it's our best bet (and based on what Herm is saying)....

It's likely to be a lot of double TE sets, and max protect in obvious passing situations.

With deep balls, Kennison and Parker better hold onto the few opportunities they will get. Otherwise, Denver will put 9 in the box pretty quick....

If our Defense can pressure Jake the Fake into a couple of TOs, and if they can stop the run on first down....

If we don't become entirely one-dimensional and predictable--especially on first down...



I really think we can make a game of it against the Donks. That's a managable number of "ifs".....isn't it?








Otherwise, we are likely 0-2 to start.
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Old 09-15-2006, 06:31 PM   #16
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If Huard is taking 7 step drops all day, he will be visiting Trent's room at the hospital is all I am saying. This is a great way to get him killed.

But then we can see how Croyle looks in a real game!
I'm not proposing Huard should take 7 step drops all day. I just never like it when the stated goals of an offense are anything other than scoring touchdowns.
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Old 09-15-2006, 06:34 PM   #17
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You just know the are going to blitz on every freaking down to try to get into the backfield. I say to try whatever works. I agree about the WR's. They better find some sticky glue and catch everything within 10 feet of them.
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Old 09-15-2006, 06:47 PM   #18
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NO YOU DON'T! You need to score POINTS! I don't care if you score a TD on the first play from scrimmage on every drive, and don't get one single first down all day! Score POINTS! It's that simple. That's what takes the pressure off your defense.
Explain Chiefs defenses the past few years...
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Old 09-15-2006, 07:02 PM   #19
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Explain Chiefs defenses the past few years...
What, other than they have been horrible, would you like to know?
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Old 09-15-2006, 07:08 PM   #20
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Oh, I would love to get them into their run protect package, and then all of a sudden, wooops, the tight ends pop out wide, and LJ goes into motion and out for a pass, then hurry up to the line and force them to keep their personell in with no subs. Notice I didn't say snap the ball right away, just no huddle and set to the line quickly, then hold them there for most of the play clock. Occaisionally, we will have to snap it quick to keep them honest. Or we snap it if they try to make a sub.

Its hurry up to run. Doesn't mean we will pass, we will still control the clock, but we will snap it when we are gd good and ready, and hold them bitches at attention for the whole play clock.

That is how I would game plan it.
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Old 09-15-2006, 07:08 PM   #21
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What, other than they have been horrible, would you like to know?
We scored a whole lot of points, so you'd think the pressure would have been off of them, according to what you posted. They sure didn't play that way, though.
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Old 09-15-2006, 07:15 PM   #22
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We scored a whole lot of points, so you'd think the pressure would have been off of them, according to what you posted. They sure didn't play that way, though.
So fewer points would have been better? There comes a point when a defense is so bad that nothing can save it. I don't think our defense this year fits that description, but unfortunately our offense might.
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Old 09-15-2006, 07:21 PM   #23
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We scored a whole lot of points, so you'd think the pressure would have been off of them, according to what you posted. They sure didn't play that way, though.
So if we hadn't scored a lot of points last year we would have been maybe 11-5?

I just don't think the defense sets on the sideline and thinks, "Jeez, I hope them fuggers don't score again!"
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Old 09-16-2006, 06:58 AM   #24
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Gonna be a tough row to hoe...


The Broncos will be stacking the line to stop Johnson and they will blitz someone, possibly every stinkin’ snap, to disrupt the backfield and get to Huard.

Johnson is not going to find many holes [particularly with our current OL] until we sting them in the passing game and force them off the line. That is not going to happen if Huard is running for his life, which is a definite possibility [particularly with our current OL].

I like the double TE sets in this game, but we have to THROW to the TEs and not just to Gonzalez. We lack the WRs to be successful with straight drop-back passing behind a max protection set.

Lots of swing and screen passes to Johnson. Forget about the chunks of yardage. Short, quick passes and draws. We are not going to overpower the Broncos DL [particularly with our current OL].

Denver is in the enviable position of facing a backup QB behind a devastated OL with a weak WR corps.

Ouch.

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Old 09-16-2006, 07:25 AM   #25
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Whatchabetdat Herm, seeing that the Chiefs and Bonkos only scored 10 points each last week, will run-run-run all day long and figure we'll be the ones on top in a really low-scoring affair?
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Old 09-16-2006, 08:28 AM   #26
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I don't hate him, but he was saying all the things I hate this week. "We need to get first downs", "we need to chew the clock and keep our defense off the field".



NO YOU DON'T! You need to score POINTS! I don't care if you score a TD on the first play from scrimmage on every drive, and don't get one single first down all day! Score POINTS! It's that simple. That's what takes the pressure off your defense.
I agree we need to score points. However, a wide-open spread offense (too often) will have us looking at inserting Croyle or Printers into this game because of an injury to Huard.

I don't like Martyball, but if we can make of a game of it....in this case.....I'll take it.
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Old 09-16-2006, 08:33 AM   #27
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So fewer points would have been better? There comes a point when a defense is so bad that nothing can save it. I don't think our defense this year fits that description, but unfortunately our offense might.
A quick strike, spread offense if likely to be one of two things: either 3-and-outs, or even if we do score....Denver's Offense on the field more against our Defense. I don't like either of those scenarios.

I honestly think that short of a rash of turnovers by the Donks, our only chance is to control the clock. We need to dominate TOP to have a decent shot.
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The Broncos will be stacking the line to stop Johnson and they will blitz someone, possibly every stinkin’ snap, to disrupt the backfield and get to Huard.

Johnson is not going to find many holes [particularly with our current OL] until we sting them in the passing game and force them off the line. That is not going to happen if Huard is running for his life, which is a definite possibility [particularly with our current OL].

I like the double TE sets in this game, but we have to THROW to the TEs and not just to Gonzalez. We lack the WRs to be successful with straight drop-back passing behind a max protection set.

Lots of swing and screen passes to Johnson. Forget about the chunks of yardage. Short, quick passes and draws. We are not going to overpower the Broncos DL [particularly with our current OL].

Denver is in the enviable position of facing a backup QB behind a devastated OL with a weak WR corps.

Ouch.

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I agree they have to throw the ball some, obviously, but in doing so....we better protect Huard, and we better be efficient. Otherwise, we will lose the battle over TOP...and I don't like our odds if Denver has the TOP edge.

If we can sting them early even two or three times in the passing game, there's no way Shanny will keep 8-9 in the box. He's got too much confidence in his front seven--and has every right to.

I think if we do see the loaded box by Denver, you will see the max protect to try to get them out of it.....send Parker and Kennison on double post patterns. It'll take one or two scares for Shanny to back out of that...and open up enough running room for LJ to run, IMHO.
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Old 09-16-2006, 08:53 AM   #29
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A very big challenge...


I am pretty much of the same mind, Mr. Kotter. We have to make Denver back off the LOS.

Were I the Denver DC, I would have nine players close to the OL and I would send at least [1] of them on nearly every down. I would concentrate on Gonzalez and spend my risk ration on Kennison or Parker, counting on my D getting into the backfield and breaking Huard’s timing. Denver has the personnel to accomplish that strategy.

My concern is that we lack the OL & QB to take advantage of the situation. Our OL is in tatters at both right and left Tackle positions. We lost a great blocking FB and our QB is about as inexperienced as a veteran can be. In order for us to force Denver off the LOS with max protect in play, Huard will have to hit Gonzalez, Dunn [Wilson?], Kennison and Parker [and Hall?] quickly and accurately [before the Predominantly Orange tide washes over him].

Denver can play sloppy and still win the game. We do not have that luxury. We will have to execute flawlessly. Can the Chiefs execute flawlessly at Invesco, with a busted OL and a backup QB?

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I'm thinking svitek, tackle eligible on first and second down, just run it. Third and short, quick slant to dante, screen pass to lj. third and long, draw play or gonzalez up the seam. Make our superstars win the game for us. Perimeter running, inside running. Our defense will be okay.
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