GBN mock 1/25/09 - Page 2

Mr. Laz · 01-27-2009, 02:33 PM

2009 DRAFT PROJECTION

January 25, 2009

* Indicates underclassman

#
Team
Player
POS
School

1 Detroit
Matthew Stafford
QB
Georgia

2 St. Louis Andre Smith
OT
Alabama

3
Kansas City Aaron Curry
LB
Wake Forest

4

Seattle
Michael Crabtree
WR
Texas Tech

5

Cleveland
Aaron Maybin
DE/LB
Penn State

6
Cincinnati Eugene Monroe
OT
Virginia

7 Oakland Jason Smith
OT
Baylor

8

Jacksonville Michael Oher
OT
Mississippi

9
Green Bay B.J. Raji
DT
Boston College

10
San Francisco Mark Sanchez
QB
Southern California

11 Buffalo Everette Brown
DE
Florida State

12 Denver Chris Wells
RB
Ohio State

13 Washington Brian Orakpo
DE
Texas

14 New Orleans Malcolm Jenkins
CB
Ohio State

15
Houston Jeremy Maclin
WR
Missouri

16
San Diego Rey Maualuga
LB
Southern California

17 New York Jets Alphonso Smith
CB
Wake Forest

18 Chicago D.J. Moore CB
Vanderbilt

19
Tampa Bay Percy Harvin
WR
Florida

20 Detroit (from Dallas) James Laurinaitis
LB
Ohio State

21
Philadelphia Knowshon Moreno
RB
Georgia

22 Minnesota Vontae Davis
CB
Illinois

23
New England Brian Cushing
LB
Southern California

24
Atlanta Peria Jerry
DT
Mississippi

25 Miami Michael Johnson
DE
Georgia Tech

26
Baltimore Clint Sintim
LB
Virginia

27
Indianapolis
Sen'Derrick Marks
DT
Auburn

28
Philadelphia (from Carolina) Eben Britton
OT
Arizona

29 New York Giants Hakeem Nicks
WR
North Carolina

30
Tennessee Brandon Pettigrew
TE
Oklahoma State

31
Arizona
LeSean McCoy
RB
Pittsburgh

32
Pittsburgh
Duke Robinson
OG
Oklahoma

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Mr. Laz · 01-27-2009, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bowener

Well, with that being said, we now know we need to set up a chart to show how unlikely it is to trade back from the top 3 position to nip that talk in the bud before this thread is over run by the 'trade-down' crowd.

ya .... cuz we wouldn't want draft talk to run rampant or anything.

Mecca · 01-27-2009, 08:36 PM

I think his point is to nip the ridiculous talk in the bud...talking about the draft is great but it'd be nice if people brought a common knowledge of it before talking about it.

melbar · 01-27-2009, 08:54 PM

If everyone had the exact same knowledge and thus the same opinion, this would be a very boring discussion board.

Mr. Laz · 01-27-2009, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

I think his point is to nip the ridiculous talk in the bud...talking about the draft is great but it'd be nice if people brought a common knowledge of it before talking about it.

if the "ridiculous talk" means that people are involved and enjoying the NFL draft, then more power to 'em.

if people want to speculate about the chiefs trading 10 times and spend hours digging up the drafting reports on some players they think are going to be good, then more power to 'em.

it's fun ... it brings interest to the team ... it brings HOPE

i didn't know there was such as draft elite-ism but i guess so *sigh*

**AustinChief** · 01-27-2009, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bowener

Well, with that being said, we now know we need to set up a chart to show how unlikely it is to trade back from the top 3 position to nip that talk in the bud before this thread is over run by the 'trade-down' crowd.

The only POSSIBLE trade downs would be a trade from #3 to 4-6 .. anything past that would require New Orleans-esque tomfoolery...

The key would be for one of those 3 teams to be dead set on a player AND think that we (or one of the other teams above them but below us) were set on taking that same player....

For example, if we somehow "sold" Seattle on the idea that we were drafting Crabtree and they wanted him bad enough... we "might" get a 3rd rounder out of the deal... maybe even a 3rd and 4th....

Not very likely in any regard...

Let's say the #8 pick want to trade with us... it would take their 1st, 2nd. 3rd and 5th and 6th picks to equal our pick at #3...

Sam Hall · 01-27-2009, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief

Let's say the #8 pick want to trade with us... it would take their 1st, 2nd. 3rd and 5th and 6th picks to equal our pick at #3...

Now we're talking

Somebody get San Francisco on the phone so they can move up seven spots.

Mr. Laz · 01-27-2009, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief

The only POSSIBLE trade downs would be a trade from #3 to 4-6 .. anything past that would require New Orleans-esque tomfoolery...

The key would be for one of those 3 teams to be dead set on a player AND think that we (or one of the other teams above them but below us) were set on taking that same player....

For example, if we somehow "sold" Seattle on the idea that we were drafting Crabtree and they wanted him bad enough... we "might" get a 3rd rounder out of the deal... maybe even a 3rd and 4th....

Not very likely in any regard...

Let's say the #8 pick want to trade with us... it would take their 1st, 2nd. 3rd and 5th and 6th picks to equal our pick at #3...

alright enough of that bossman ..... nip it in the bud.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-27-2009, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz

alright enough of that bossman ..... nip it in the bud.

Dear God, Laz. Enough with the drama.

You know exactly what Bowener and Mecca were saying.

It shouldn't be that much to ask to bring some intelligent, thought-out opinions to the table.

Fact is, there are very very few legitimate trade down scenarios - yet this place will soon be running wild with dumbass ideas that we should trade down with the Eagles and take their 2 1st round picks in the 20's for our #3.

Just like the dumbass idea that we should have done the same thing with Dallas last year.

Different opinions ARE great, and make this place tick. But it's hard to respect an opinion when it's obvious the person that posted it put ZERO time into considering it's legitimacy.

No one is saying that people shouldn't voice their opinion - but if you expect people to respect it, take more than a nano-second to think it through before you post it.

Posting every random, non-sensible thought that enters one's head is NOT what makes this place tick.

milkman · 01-28-2009, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Dear God, Laz. Enough with the drama.

You know exactly what Bowener and Mecca were saying.

It shouldn't be that much to ask to bring some intelligent, thought-out opinions to the table.

Fact is, there are very very few legitimate trade down scenarios - yet this place will soon be running wild with dumbass ideas that we should trade down with the Eagles and take their 2 1st round picks in the 20's for our #3.

Just like the dumbass idea that we should have done the same thing with Dallas last year.

Different opinions ARE great, and make this place tick. But it's hard to respect an opinion when it's obvious the person that posted it put ZERO time into considering it's legitimacy.

No one is saying that people shouldn't voice their opinion - but if you expect people to respect it, take more than a nano-second to think it through before you post it.

Posting every random, non-sensible thought that enters one's head is NOT what makes this place tick.

Let's trade LJ and our #1 to the Raiders for JaRussell and their #1.

Is that the kind of post you were talking about?

Fat Elvis · 01-28-2009, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

The Chiefs can fix some of the LB problems in free agency.

I'd rather take Crabtree than Curry.

Absolutely.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-28-2009, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

Let's trade LJ and our #1 to the Raiders for JaRussell and their #1.

Is that the kind of post you were talking about?

Good example.

BigChiefFan · 01-28-2009, 11:21 AM

I've already said it another thread, but Jacksonville, with the 7th overall pick, is the ideal candidate to trade with.

**The Franchise** · 01-28-2009, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

I've already said it another thread, but Jacksonville, with the 7th overall pick, is the ideal candidate to trade with.

Jacksonville has the 8th.

EDIT: And it would take them their 1st, 2nd AND 3rd round picks to trade up 5 spots.

Chiefnj2 · 01-28-2009, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

I've already said it another thread, but Jacksonville, with the 7th overall pick, is the ideal candidate to trade with.

Jax traded up last year. I doubt they do it again and lose more picks.

BigChiefFan · 01-28-2009, 12:02 PM

I would have sworn the Jags picked 7th overall. In any case, the 7th overall pick, whoever has that pick is the prime candidate. It's just a swap of 1st rounders, plus a
2nd rounder and we give up a late round pick back. Maybe crazy Al really wants Crabtree.

01-27-2009, 08:36 PM	#17
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2347050	I think his point is to nip the ridiculous talk in the bud...talking about the draft is great but it'd be nice if people brought a common knowledge of it before talking about it.
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01-27-2009, 08:54 PM	#18
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01-28-2009, 11:21 AM	#27
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01-28-2009, 12:02 PM	#30
BigChiefFan MVP Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: In the Top 10 Casino cash: $9924205	I would have sworn the Jags picked 7th overall. In any case, the 7th overall pick, whoever has that pick is the prime candidate. It's just a swap of 1st rounders, plus a 2nd rounder and we give up a late round pick back. Maybe crazy Al really wants Crabtree. __________________ A 35 year drought can make you thirsty.
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