Football Jake Plummer returns to rip Shanahan - Page 2

Hammock Parties · 07-16-2009, 11:53 PM

Hell yes. Twist that knife.

http://broncotalk.net/2009/07/jake-p...talks-broncos/

“Nothing amazes you or surprises you too much in the NFL. I’ve seen great football players, including myself, kind of cast aside because some coach feels that’s the way to go. Then you see Coach Mike Shanahan get pushed out. It’s always fun to see that stuff happen. It’s always different.

The NFL is always moving and shaking trying to find the next winner, the next guy who’s going to do it. That’s kind of how the NFL has gone. It’s soured quite a few veterans that I’ve talked to, because it seems like it’s a youth movement in a way. You can pay a younger guy less to do almost the same job a vet does.”

“I think they got a good coach in there right now. I’m excited to see how they do. I like that quarterback they got, Orton. I think he’s a tough kid that’s gonna, kind of like myself, just lead, he’s not going to dazzle you in any way, but he’s going to lead and through all his grit and determination he’ll pull out a few more wins than maybe someone else might.”

Plummer sounded in good spirits about it, joking about the mega-mansion Shanahan has been building in Denver,

“Well he was what, only 5′4”? So he wants people to think he’s 5′6”, something like that?”

Plummer continued, “If I saw the man, I’d go shake his hand. He gave me a chance to put a stamp on my career of a winner and get some good wins in there. I have to live with myself. He’s gotta live with himself down the road. So I don’t have hard feelings and I don’t hold grudges. He got his due there, I think it was a year past due. He should have been gone a year before and I’ve already said all that stuff. But he’ll find himself somewhere coaching again and cutting some other good quarterback for another young kid. Who knows?”

Mile High Mania · 07-17-2009, 07:10 AM

I will say this about Plummer... he had talent and could play at a high level, he just had mental mistakes at the worst possible time in the game. I think he played well while in Denver and I do think he got a raw deal at that point in the season when he was benched at 7-4 (I believe) and they were still in the hunt. I understand why they made the move, but I think that was throwing the towel in at that moment and didn't like it.

LaChapelle · 07-17-2009, 07:24 AM

Did someone bump his Honda Element again?

Mile High Mania · 07-17-2009, 07:28 AM

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Did someone bump his Honda Element again?

It's still funny to me that people ride him for this one... sure it was odd, but I guess he should have had a tricked up Hummer or Escalade.

LaChapelle · 07-17-2009, 07:32 AM

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It's still funny to me that people ride him for this one... sure it was odd, but I guess he should have had a tricked up Hummer or Escalade.

Didn't this happen about the same time he was voted hottest athlete by a gay mag?

Mile High Mania · 07-17-2009, 07:32 AM

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Didn't this happen about the same time he was voted hottest athlete in a gay mag?

Dunno, I don't subscribe to any... ask Claythan.

Sofa King · 07-17-2009, 07:37 AM

no mention of what plummer is doing with his life post-football....

i would like to know.... hopefully he's planning a comeback... QBOTF?

LaChapelle · 07-17-2009, 07:39 AM

He's like a hand ball wizard or some such shit.

Mile High Mania · 07-17-2009, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King

no mention of what plummer is doing with his life post-football....

i would like to know.... hopefully he's planning a comeback... QBOTF?

per Wiki:
"Since his NFL retirement, Plummer is an avid player of 4-Wall Handball. Jake attended his first professional handball tournament in 2007 when he entered the Simple Green US Open of Handball (with brother Eric) in the pro doubles division; eventually losing to future hall of fame members John Bike and Danny Bell. In 2008 Jake Plummer hosted his own pro invitational and lost in the finals of the pro consulation bracket to #37 ranked, Jeff Kastner. Jake Plummer played and lost in the semifinals versus brother Eric Plummer (eventual champion) at this year's 2008 Idaho State Singles Championships."

CoMoChief · 07-17-2009, 07:39 AM

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, I just fell out of my chair.

Hammock Parties · 07-17-2009, 07:54 AM

No doubt the most amusing part of this is Plummer's insinuation that the Broncos would have been better off with him at QB.

As MHM said...stick Plummer in there with a lackluster running game and absolutely no defense and see how high you draft the next year...

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 07-17-2009, 08:51 AM

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He got his due there, I think it was a year past due. He should have been gone a year before and I’ve already said all that stuff. But he’ll find himself somewhere coaching again and cutting some other good quarterback for another young kid. Who knows?

Someone forgot to take their bitter pills.

Mile High Mania · 07-17-2009, 08:55 AM

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Someone forgot to take their bitter pills.

Yeah, I'm sure his ideal landing spot was Houston, but it didn't happen... if he wanted to play and thought he was "that good", he should have shown up in Tampa.

Just Passin' By · 07-17-2009, 08:58 AM

I don't see the big deal. He's right. Plummer shouldn't have been taken out when he was, and Shanahan should have been fired at least a year earlier.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 07-17-2009, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Yeah, I'm sure his ideal landing spot was Houston, but it didn't happen... if he wanted to play and thought he was "that good", he should have shown up in Tampa.

He was a whiny bitch about it, and somehow I don't think handball is going to have the staying power to pay the bills. He's going to regret that at some point down the line. That's when all that bullshit about not holding a grudge will go out the window. He'll blame Mike Shanahan instead of himself. And that guy has no one to blame but himself.

**DaFace** · 07-17-2009, 09:03 AM

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This is a perfect example of a post when rival fans (we all do this) have revisionist views of history when it suits them.

Jake led Denver to the AFC Title game? Wow - you NEVER read that around here during the time, or shortly there after.

Jake took them there, but then Jay failed miserably... hmmm. And, the wild swing in defensive and rushing performance had nothing to do with it? Ok... carry on.

Yep, it happens all the time. I try and keep myself near-neutral, but then it's still hard just because your opinions toward players are swayed by whether or not you like them in general (partly because of their team). Just like cutler7624 suddenly pointing out Cutler's negative aspects and emphasizing Orton's positive aspects, Chiefs fans probably do the same. Now that Cutler's gone, we can admit he was pretty damn good, and we want to believe that Orton's going to fail.

07-16-2009, 11:53 PM
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4430478	Jake Plummer returns to rip Shanahan Hell yes. Twist that knife. http://broncotalk.net/2009/07/jake-p...talks-broncos/ “Nothing amazes you or surprises you too much in the NFL. I’ve seen great football players, including myself, kind of cast aside because some coach feels that’s the way to go. Then you see Coach Mike Shanahan get pushed out. It’s always fun to see that stuff happen. It’s always different. The NFL is always moving and shaking trying to find the next winner, the next guy who’s going to do it. That’s kind of how the NFL has gone. It’s soured quite a few veterans that I’ve talked to, because it seems like it’s a youth movement in a way. You can pay a younger guy less to do almost the same job a vet does.” “I think they got a good coach in there right now. I’m excited to see how they do. I like that quarterback they got, Orton. I think he’s a tough kid that’s gonna, kind of like myself, just lead, he’s not going to dazzle you in any way, but he’s going to lead and through all his grit and determination he’ll pull out a few more wins than maybe someone else might.” Plummer sounded in good spirits about it, joking about the mega-mansion Shanahan has been building in Denver, “Well he was what, only 5′4”? So he wants people to think he’s 5′6”, something like that?” Plummer continued, “If I saw the man, I’d go shake his hand. He gave me a chance to put a stamp on my career of a winner and get some good wins in there. I have to live with myself. He’s gotta live with himself down the road. So I don’t have hard feelings and I don’t hold grudges. He got his due there, I think it was a year past due. He should have been gone a year before and I’ve already said all that stuff. But he’ll find himself somewhere coaching again and cutting some other good quarterback for another young kid. Who knows?”
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07-17-2009, 07:10 AM	#16
Mile High Mania #triggering Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $3457229	I will say this about Plummer... he had talent and could play at a high level, he just had mental mistakes at the worst possible time in the game. I think he played well while in Denver and I do think he got a raw deal at that point in the season when he was benched at 7-4 (I believe) and they were still in the hunt. I understand why they made the move, but I think that was throwing the towel in at that moment and didn't like it. __________________
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Sofa King Hello Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Dakota Casino cash: $792096 VARSITY	no mention of what plummer is doing with his life post-football.... i would like to know.... hopefully he's planning a comeback... QBOTF?
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Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4430478	No doubt the most amusing part of this is Plummer's insinuation that the Broncos would have been better off with him at QB. As MHM said...stick Plummer in there with a lackluster running game and absolutely no defense and see how high you draft the next year... __________________ Chiefs game films
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Just Passin' By In Search of a Life Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $5460524	I don't see the big deal. He's right. Plummer shouldn't have been taken out when he was, and Shanahan should have been fired at least a year earlier.
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