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Old 01-13-2012, 01:13 PM  
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2012 NFL Mock Draft: Kansas City Chiefs' Scott Pioli Gives Insight To Quarterback Position Next Season

Jan 13, 2012
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With just a few simple words Kansas City Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli broke hearts, tables and TV's when he came out and said that the Chiefs would NOT be trading up in this April's draft to take a quarterback. There goes 80% of mock draft and trade scenarios for Chiefs fans. It's not just that the Chiefs won't be seeing the likes of Andrew Luck, or more thought-to-be-possible Robert Griffin III next season in red and gold, it's the obviousness that means it will be Matt Cassel under center for the Chiefs in 2012.

Here are a couple of quotes from Scott Pioli in regards to trading up that had Chiefs' fans punching their dogs. He spoke with NBC Action News' Jack Harry. via nbcactionnews.com

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"From year to year you have so many needs," Pioli said. "To start giving up multiple No. 1 picks, that's a big decision because right now we may say we have needs in these five areas and to sacrifice multiple drafts in the future, I tend to want to be a little more responsible than that."
Pioli has a point about not mortgaging your future by giving up, basically starters (multiple first round picks), in order to take a chance on one guy. But it's going to be a tough sell for the season ticket salesman and group sales staff at One Arrowhead Drive if they have to pitch Cassel as the starting quarterback heading into 2012. I think the Chiefs can be a good team with Cassel, but getting the fence-sitters to cross over isn't going to happen with Cassel under center next season.

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"So what I'm gong to do is make prudent decisions to get the best players and get the best team built. Being too short-sighted and trading too many draft picks for any one player....I don't even know who the player is who I'd say I'd give up multiple first round picks based on where we're at."
It's the last part of that last sentence that has Chiefs fans worried. It doesn't sound like he's even entertaining the idea that they even need another quarterback, at least in the first round, as we stand right now. Maybe he's just playing a game with the media and he doesn't want it to get out that they may be in the market for a quarterback. It certainly wouldn't make Matt Cassel's life any easier over the next few months if he did suggest anything like that. But if we can take Pioli at his word right now we can go ahead and cross off Luck and RGIII as Chiefs next season.
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Old 01-13-2012, 02:20 PM   #16
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Yup. If Cassel continues to start over the next 1-2 years, it will go down as one of the biggest wastes of a talented roster in Chiefs history, ala the 90's.
Same as Vermeil's Chiefs, too.
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Old 01-13-2012, 02:22 PM   #17
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Against my previous post, I am not really a Pioli hater. I like what he has done here, save for 1 thing.

I just don't get how a footbal guy like he is can be so blind to something so huge and obvious.
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Old 01-13-2012, 02:24 PM   #18
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I will say this tho, as much as we bitch and complain and want a franchise qb, they aren't exactly growing on trees.

IMO there are only about 7 or 8 in the NFL. Therefor there are only 7 or 8 teams that will consistently contend for SBs.
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Old 01-13-2012, 02:25 PM   #19
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Scott Pioli is a big pussy.
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Old 01-13-2012, 02:27 PM   #20
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I will say this tho, as much as we bitch and complain and want a franchise qb, they aren't exactly growing on trees.

IMO there are only about 7 or 8 in the NFL. Therefor there are only 7 or 8 teams that will consistently contend for SBs.
While I don't disagree with you I think most folks on this board are tired of the Chiefs never developing a QB in thier history. Only so many back ups and broken down QBs you can plug in and folks now get sick of it.
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Old 01-13-2012, 02:30 PM   #21
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You know actually the more I think about it, the more I think he might actually be smokescreening it.

They had scouts at basically all of Lucks games. If he is what everyone says he is, why would Pioli not want that?
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Old 01-13-2012, 02:33 PM   #23
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I'm glad they are just completely crushing all hope of success this year. It will be a lot less painful this way. I'll care again when Cassel is gone.
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It doesn't make any sense for him to come out and say this now.

I'm calling BS.
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Old 01-13-2012, 02:34 PM   #25
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Yes. Because Houston and Baldwin were "safe" picks.....
And he'd never draft Eric Berry.
And he never drafts Offensive Linemen high (Rodney Hudson).

If enough Chiefs fans say it though...it becomes the truth.
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I will say this tho, as much as we bitch and complain and want a franchise qb, they aren't exactly growing on trees.

IMO there are only about 7 or 8 in the NFL. Therefor there are only 7 or 8 teams that will consistently contend for SBs.
I think that's a liberal number.

Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, Manning...

Who else?

You're spot on though. And I'd venture to say that in the last 25 years (I've been watching the NFL) there have probably only been a dozen...total. So we're talking, what, 11 or 12 franchise QB's in 2.5 decades?
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I understand the frustration with Cassel, believe me.. but he is Middle of the Pack bad.. he isn't the worst in the league.

Give him a line and I think he would be "good"

Barry Richardson is the embarrassment
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Old 01-13-2012, 03:12 PM   #29
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This is nothing more than what has been said many times before ... Pioli is a conservative type guy who is much more likely to move down than up.
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I think that's a liberal number.

Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, Manning...

Who else?

You're spot on though. And I'd venture to say that in the last 25 years (I've been watching the NFL) there have probably only been a dozen...total. So we're talking, what, 11 or 12 franchise QB's in 2.5 decades?
Depends how you view franchise QB. A guy who has won it all at least once, or a guy who gets you in the playoffs consistently and gives the team a chance at winning.
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