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Old 09-29-2015, 09:24 AM  
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Draft him, Dorsey.
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Old 09-29-2015, 02:56 PM   #16
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I wrote "spread" instead of "college."

I was trying to say that he looks like a spread product. He struggled with reads and accuracy before TCU went to the spread.

Even making "reads" in a spread offense is very different from making them in an NFL offense. Sorry, but dual-threat spread guys are just not reliable things to hitch NFL hopes to.

He is not a better prospect than RGIII at this point. Griffin was bigger, has a stronger arm, and was more dynamic as a run threat at QB.
You know you could just admit you haven't watched Boykin at all.

Boykin is the same size as RG3 and has comparable arm strength and lolz at more dynamic run threat.

Go watch some highlights.

He struggled with a run-first, poorly designed offensive scheme. TCU's offensive coordinator at the time was a worse play caller than Andy Reid.

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Old 09-29-2015, 03:50 PM   #17
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And is...

Undersized
A spread-offense product
Struggled mightily with making the limited reads required for a college offense as a younger player

UR R A HOMER

He's a poverty version of RGIII, who did everything better than Boykin at the college level.
All this. But recall this next time you're eager to defend Aaron Crow or the litany of MU garbage that's played for the Chiefs lately, like when you wanted to start Daniel.
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Old 09-29-2015, 04:03 PM   #18
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All this. But recall this next time you're eager to defend Aaron Crow or the litany of MU garbage that's played for the Chiefs lately, like when you wanted to start Daniel.
You expect anyone to believe that you've ever watched TCU play?

You don't watch the Royals games, yet still try to have an opinion on them. I wouldn't be surprised if you don't even watch Chiefs games.
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Old 09-29-2015, 04:20 PM   #19
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You know you could just admit you haven't watched Boykin at all.

Boykin is the same size as RG3 and has comparable arm strength and lolz at more dynamic run threat.

Go watch some highlights.

He struggled with a run-first, poorly designed offensive scheme. TCU's offensive coordinator at the time was a worse play caller than Andy Reid.

I've watched him play plenty.

Robert Griffin III is a legitimate 6-2. I'll be shocked if Boykin actually measures that at pro day. He looks like a 6-footer to me.

He's a great college spread QB, but even in that highlight tape, the reads are limited (like most spread guys, it's just a few reads of very simple route trees), and he's throwing to a lot of guys who are WIDE open. In addition, he doesn't show off a consistently tight spiral.

The arm strength is not that of Robert Grifffin III. It's good enough for the NFL, but it isn't great.

He struggled in a system much closer to what he would need to be an effective NFL starter. That's a big warning sign.
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Old 09-29-2015, 04:22 PM   #20
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All this. But recall this next time you're eager to defend Aaron Crow or the litany of MU garbage that's played for the Chiefs lately, like when you wanted to start Daniel.
I would prefer to start Chase Daniel at QB over Alex Smith because, while he does have physical limitations, he's less of a ****ing coward when it comes to throwing the ball. He can make any throw Alex Smith will actually attempt, and he will get the ball out quickly and decisively.

I don't want him long-term as the answer and have no delusions about him (he's not Drew Brees). Not have I ever said he is... just that he can provide 90 percent of what Alex Smith does, bar minimum, at a much lower price.

I didn't defend Aaron Crow because he went to Mizzou. I simply have pointed out that he is less of a bust at this point than many guys in his class, and I consider him less of a bust compared to Chris Colon.
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Old 09-29-2015, 04:27 PM   #21
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From NFL.com:

"2. Trevone Boykin, TCU

Boykin came out of nowhere last season, posting eye-popping numbers in leading TCU into late-season playoff discussions. Boykin has an elongated throwing motion and very average arm strength, but his playmaking ability is undeniable. Boykin's substantial improvement from 2013 to 2014 was staggering and he will have a majority of his supporting cast back for more in 2015. Despite being listed at 6-foot-2, scouts insist he is closer to 6-0 and they aren't yet sold on Boykin's ability to transition from the TCU system into an NFL offense."
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Old 09-30-2015, 10:14 AM   #22
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From NFL.com:

"2. Trevone Boykin, TCU

Boykin came out of nowhere last season, posting eye-popping numbers in leading TCU into late-season playoff discussions. Boykin has an elongated throwing motion and very average arm strength, but his playmaking ability is undeniable. Boykin's substantial improvement from 2013 to 2014 was staggering and he will have a majority of his supporting cast back for more in 2015. Despite being listed at 6-foot-2, scouts insist he is closer to 6-0 and they aren't yet sold on Boykin's ability to transition from the TCU system into an NFL offense."
They're wrong.
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Old 09-30-2015, 12:25 PM   #23
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You expect anyone to believe that you've ever watched TCU play? .
Obviously not. Nobody watches TCU play.
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Old 09-30-2015, 02:18 PM   #24
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They're wrong.
About what?

His height? We'll find out at the combine.

His throwing motion? It does look long and not-that-quick on tape.

His arm strength? It looks to be adequate for an NFL guy, but it's not anything special (it IS great arm strength for a college QB, though).

Transitioning to pro ball? Look around at the dual-threat spread guys and start thinking about who has actually become an elite or near-elite NFL QB (you'll be thinking forever).
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About what?

His height? We'll find out at the combine.

His throwing motion? It does look long and not-that-quick on tape.

His arm strength? It looks to be adequate for an NFL guy, but it's not anything special (it IS great arm strength for a college QB, though).

Transitioning to pro ball? Look around at the dual-threat spread guys and start thinking about who has actually become an elite or near-elite NFL QB (you'll be thinking forever).
All of that.

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Old 09-30-2015, 06:16 PM   #26
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What the **** are you talking about?

He sucked when we ran a more traditional offense. He only became a QB because Paschall ****ed up. He was a RB/WR prior to that (and by prior to that, I mean during the offseason that year).

When we went to the spread offense, he flourished. He ran a similar offense in high school. He has increased the amount of reads that he makes from when we went to the spread offense.

He's a better prospect than RG3 because he can actually take a hit.
Lol. This reads like a negative scouting report
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I do not ever want to see a highly touted college spread option QB on my pro team, ever. Boykin is great at TCU and will garner Heisman consideration, but he will fail in the NFL if he stays at QB just likely nearly every other spread option QB has (Mariota looks like he might have a future, as well as Tannehill, but that's it).

Give me a quarterback from a pro set offense.
Tannehill was a pro set QB.
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If Mariota has a future in your eyes, then Boykin should as well.
Kinda applies, kinda doesn't. Yes Oregon ran a spread offenae in a sense, but they had a lot of pro-style concepts built into their offense.

The Ducks offense is..or well at least was very unique.

Huge difference between Mariota and Boykin.
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