Chiefs The Chiefs shouldn't select a QB in the 1st round - Page 21

kcbubb · 01-29-2009, 10:52 AM

The Chiefs should sign a free agent QB like Ryan Fitzpatrick. Or, if the Patriots would agree to it, swap first round picks with the Patriots for Matt Cassell.

The only defense in the league that was worse than the Chiefs was the 0-16 Detroit Lions. The Chiefs need, at a minimum, three new starters on defense (2 LB's & DE) if we stay in the 4-3. The Chiefs need defensive talent.

If the Chiefs do not swap first round picks with the Patriots for Cassell, the Chiefs would benefit the most by trading down and acquiring more picks and possibly getting more value out of their first round pick instead of reaching for a player. The Chiefs need defense with their first pick.

blueballs · 01-29-2009, 06:31 PM

say it - live it
Gay for Sanchez
only Jake Long is hotter

Deberg_1990 · 01-29-2009, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefRon

I think some people are just used to "patching" every year from all the years under Carl.

Pretty much.

Theres a whole generation of Chiefs fans out there that want to relive the early 90's.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-29-2009, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Pretty much.

Theres a whole generation of Chiefs fans out there that want to relive the early 90's.

And most of those people never realized that the Chiefs were loaded with talent from the 80's, not the 90's.

**Dave Lane** · 01-29-2009, 06:48 PM

Just like I think this team is WAY more talented than what they showed!! Have a 80 IQ coach can do that to a team.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-29-2009, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

Just like I think this team is WAY more talented than what they showed!! Have a 80 IQ coach can do that to a team.

Nah.

This is the most talent-depleted roster in the entire league.

The team that Marty took over had a plethora of high first and high second round picks.

The current roster is pretty much crap.

Danman · 01-29-2009, 06:59 PM

OK Fellow Posters,

Get ready for a steady drivel of "we should trade down and get more picks" threads leading up to the draft. They will happen nearly every day and most will spout ridiculous trade scenarios like this one. It will be the flavor of the week.

Some will argue Pioli "must" trade the pick because New England has been very active in draft day trades. Although anything is possible, I think the only way we trade down is if some team has a woody for Crabtree and gives us a sh*tload of picks to jump in front of the Seahawks-other than that, it ain't gonna happen with this pick. Pioli may trade up or down a few spots in subsequent rounds depending on how he stacks his board.

I do not think Pioli will draft another OL with the #3 pick in the draft, I think he's smart enough to realize he already has a LT that the team just drafted last year and to draft any other OL spot with that high a pick is just stupid. Brace yourselves, he may not draft an OL or LB the first day, if at all. Depends what we find with tier 2 and 3 free agency.

I think he values having a franchise QB AND a good defense, but knows that you get the QB first and then build around him as you develop him. Because there are two first round quality QB in this draft, and because he has a high pick, I believe he will take a QB with this pick.

We can have many threads trying to guess which QB he will pick--and we will. Personally, I think he goes for Sanchez. I believe he reads defenses better and is more accurate. He also has that "inner fire" that I'm not sure I see in Stafford. I believe Sanchez has a bigger upside than Stafford and will be the better pro.

kstater · 01-29-2009, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Danman

OK Fellow Posters,

Get ready for a steady drivel of "we should trade down and get more picks" threads leading up to the draft. They will happen nearly every day and most will spout ridiculous trade scenarios like this one. It will be the flavor of the week.

Some will argue Pioli "must" trade the pick because New England has been very active in draft day trades. Although anything is possible, I think the only way we trade down is if some team has a woody for Crabtree and gives us a sh*tload of picks to jump in front of the Seahawks-other than that, it ain't gonna happen with this pick. Pioli may trade up or down a few spots in subsequent rounds depending on how he stacks his board.

I do not think Pioli will draft another OL with the #3 pick in the draft, I think he's smart enough to realize he already has a LT that the team just drafted last year and to draft any other OL spot with that high a pick is just stupid. Brace yourselves, he may not draft an OL or LB the first day, if at all. Depends what we find with tier 2 and 3 free agency.

I think he values having a franchise QB AND a good defense, but knows that you get the QB first and then build around him as you develop him. Because there are two first round quality QB in this draft, and because he has a high pick, I believe he will take a QB with this pick.

We can have many threads trying to guess which QB he will pick--and we will. Personally, I think he goes for Sanchez. I believe he reads defenses better and is more accurate. He also has that "inner fire" that I'm not sure I see in Stafford. I believe Sanchez has a bigger upside than Stafford and will be the better pro.

Holy shit, a competent n00b. But Pioli isn't going to be able to choose which QB he selects. 1 will already be gone, he'll get the other unless the Ram's go stupid and tie up another 60 million in a 2nd QB.

Deberg_1990 · 01-29-2009, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Nah.

This is the most talent-depleted roster in the entire league.

The team that Marty took over had a plethora of high first and high second round picks.

The current roster is pretty much crap.

Yea pretty much.

Those early 90's teams were loaded with high draft picks from the 80's.

Thats partially why Marty was able to have instant success.

This Chiefs team only has high picks from the past couple of years.

Pioli has his work cut out for him.

Danman · 01-29-2009, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

Holy shit, a competent n00b. But Pioli isn't going to be able to choose which QB he selects. 1 will already be gone, he'll get the other unless the Ram's go stupid and tie up another 60 million in a 2nd QB.

Why thank you. I actually lurked for years before I took the plunge, but I'd rather talk football. Hopefully Detroit is more concerned with amount of starts, history of injuries and goes Stafford. Yes all you SC fans, I know Sanchez only had the finger injury, he's a football player and injuries happen. but we're talking about the Lions' front office. We need to start the rumor mill up. Maybe we can get them to draft Curry or Orakpo #1. Maybe even Crabtree.

RippedmyFlesh · 01-29-2009, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Danman

Why thank you. I actually lurked for years before I took the plunge, but I'd rather talk football. Hopefully Detroit is more concerned with amount of starts, history of injuries and goes Stafford. Yes all you SC fans, I know Sanchez only had the finger injury, he's a football player and injuries happen. but we're talking about the Lions' front office. We need to start the rumor mill up. Maybe we can get them to draft Curry or Orakpo #1. Maybe even Crabtree.

Crabtree may turn out to be a great player but I have a feeling if the lions take a WR with their 1st pick some lions fan will do this to Ford Field

theorangelion · 01-29-2009, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

Holy shit, a competent n00b. But Pioli isn't going to be able to choose which QB he selects. 1 will already be gone, he'll get the other unless the Ram's go stupid and tie up another 60 million in a 2nd QB.

Gee here is the great kstater thinking that everyone who has just joined this site is a N00b. Once again he shows his ignorance. Wake up wildpussy. There have been other forums before CP. And why you were pooping green the rest of us were watching Chiefs football.

kcbubb · 01-29-2009, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

Holy shit, a competent n00b. But Pioli isn't going to be able to choose which QB he selects. 1 will already be gone, he'll get the other unless the Ram's go stupid and tie up another 60 million in a 2nd QB.

aren't you the guy that wanted chase daniel in round 2?????

kstater · 01-29-2009, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

aren't you the guy that wanted chase daniel in round 2?????

Of course I want him in the 2nd, but he won't be there.

kstater · 01-29-2009, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by theorangelion

Gee here is the great kstater thinking that everyone who has just joined this site is a N00b. Once again he shows his ignorance. Wake up wildpussy. There have been other forums before CP. And why you were pooping green the rest of us were watching Chiefs football.

Uhh, everyone that has just joined this site is a n00b.

kcbubb · 01-29-2009, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

65 to 75 million

Here is Ryan's contract
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3405326

wow. you could still trade down and get sanchez. If the chiefs don't take him, he could really drop. I think you could trade down to 6 or 8 and still get him. I still wouldn't want him, but it adds to the argument of trading down.

01-29-2009, 10:52 AM
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Danman Starter Join Date: Jan 2009 Casino cash: $10005175	OK Fellow Posters, Get ready for a steady drivel of "we should trade down and get more picks" threads leading up to the draft. They will happen nearly every day and most will spout ridiculous trade scenarios like this one. It will be the flavor of the week. Some will argue Pioli "must" trade the pick because New England has been very active in draft day trades. Although anything is possible, I think the only way we trade down is if some team has a woody for Crabtree and gives us a shtload of picks to jump in front of the Seahawks-other than that, it ain't gonna happen with this pick. Pioli may trade up or down a few spots in subsequent rounds depending on how he stacks his board. I do not think Pioli will draft another OL with the #3 pick in the draft, I think he's smart enough to realize he already has a LT that the team just drafted last year and to draft any other OL spot with that high a pick is just stupid. Brace yourselves, he may not draft an OL or LB the first day, if at all. Depends what we find with tier 2 and 3 free agency. I think he values having a franchise QB AND* a good defense, but knows that you get the QB first and then build around him as you develop him. Because there are two first round quality QB in this draft, and because he has a high pick, I believe he will take a QB with this pick. We can have many threads trying to guess which QB he will pick--and we will. Personally, I think he goes for Sanchez. I believe he reads defenses better and is more accurate. He also has that "inner fire" that I'm not sure I see in Stafford. I believe Sanchez has a bigger upside than Stafford and will be the better pro.
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