Chiefs The Chiefs shouldn't select a QB in the 1st round - Page 3

kcbubb · 01-29-2009, 10:52 AM

The Chiefs should sign a free agent QB like Ryan Fitzpatrick. Or, if the Patriots would agree to it, swap first round picks with the Patriots for Matt Cassell.

The only defense in the league that was worse than the Chiefs was the 0-16 Detroit Lions. The Chiefs need, at a minimum, three new starters on defense (2 LB's & DE) if we stay in the 4-3. The Chiefs need defensive talent.

If the Chiefs do not swap first round picks with the Patriots for Cassell, the Chiefs would benefit the most by trading down and acquiring more picks and possibly getting more value out of their first round pick instead of reaching for a player. The Chiefs need defense with their first pick.

Brock · 01-29-2009, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

Any QB that we draft may not be better than what we have. If you draft a QB, you have to develop them. If you sign a young free agent like Cassell or Fitzpatrick or keep Thigpen, you still have to develop them. It's a risk either way.

With the major difference in upside. None of those guys is likely to be a huge difference maker, whereas Stafford or Sanchez just might be.

**The Franchise** · 01-29-2009, 11:25 AM

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I pretty much agree with him.. other than Fitzpatrick.. but another FA QB for competition.. etc..

and i would like us to move down and get more picks.. but if we cant'... BPA!

which looks to be an OT

The dreaded OT post. This will not end well.

Frosty · 01-29-2009, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

The only defense in the league that was worse than the Chiefs was the 0-16 Detroit Lions. The Chiefs need, at a minimum, three new starters on defense (2 LB's & DE) if we stay in the 4-3. The Chiefs need defensive talent.

You do know there is free agency and other draft picks, right?

The difference between Orakpo or Curry and what you can get in the second/third isn't very great. The difference between Stafford/Sanchez and Bomar or (snort) Fitzpatrick is f'ing huge.

kcbubb · 01-29-2009, 11:27 AM

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Fitzpatrick. WTF.

I agree that we should concentrate on D. But to go for Fitzpatrick!!!

We should keep Thigpen and make him a starter.

The reason for signing Fitzpatrick is the lack of QB talent in this draft. Fitzpatrick is young and inexperienced but he has shown that he has ability to lead a team. He could compete with Thigpen. And the competition should make both of them better players.

**DeezNutz** · 01-29-2009, 11:28 AM

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which looks to be an OT

I've also heard that guards sometimes compare favorably to QB's.

If you can find a guard who goes to 13 Pro-Bowls, you'd need a QB who goes to 11 to get equal value.

**DeezNutz** · 01-29-2009, 11:29 AM

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Fitzpatrick is young and inexperienced but he has shown that he has ability to lead a team.

Out of curiosity, what did he lead them to?

**The Franchise** · 01-29-2009, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

The reason for signing Fitzpatrick is the lack of QB talent in this draft. Fitzpatrick is young and inexperienced but he has shown that he has ability to lead a team. He could compete with Thigpen. And the competition should make both of them better players.

Lack of QB talent? You can't be ****ing serious. We have a shot to get either Stafford or Sanchez and you want to pass on them because of Fitzpatrick and Thigpen? The stupidity of some people ceases to amaze me.

kcbubb · 01-29-2009, 11:31 AM

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With the major difference in upside. None of those guys is likely to be a huge difference maker, whereas Stafford or Sanchez just might be.

You could say the same with Everette Brown. I think the Chargers missed Merriman this season.

The Chargers began to change as a team when they selected Merriman. I don't want to be like the 49ers and select the next Alex Smith and pass on Merriman. The Chiefs should trade down and spread the risk over several players.

**The Franchise** · 01-29-2009, 11:32 AM

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You could say the same with Everette Brown. I think the Chargers missed Merriman this season.

The Chargers began to change as a team when they selected Merriman. I don't want to be like the 49ers and select the next Alex Smith and pass on Merriman. The Chiefs should trade down and spread the risk over several players.

Eliminate trading down because the chance that it happens is slim to none.

Coogs · 01-29-2009, 11:35 AM

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You could say the same with Everette Brown. I think the Chargers missed Merriman this season.

The Chargers began to change as a team when they selected Merriman. I don't want to be like the 49ers and select the next Alex Smith and pass on Merriman. The Chiefs should trade down and spread the risk over several players.

Get the QB this year. Get some O-line and LB's with some other picks. Get the DE next year when some very good DE's will be in the draft early... which is in all likelyhood where we will be picking again.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2010.php

Or Spikes or Mays for that matter.

PhillyChiefFan · 01-29-2009, 11:36 AM

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Eliminate trading down because the chance that it happens is slim to none.

Truth, there are no sure fire prospects this year. Teams won't be clammering to get ahold of a Matt Ryan, Reggie Bush, DeMarcus Ware type players this year.

Sanchez is inexperienced, and even Stafford has some questions.

Crush · 01-29-2009, 11:37 AM

jspchief · 01-29-2009, 11:39 AM

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Truth, there are no sure fire prospects this year. Teams won't be clammering to get ahold of a Matt Ryan, Reggie Bush, DeMarcus Ware type players this year.

Sanchez is inexperienced, and even Stafford has some questions.

Was anyone "clammering" to get Matt Ryan last year?

Deberg_1990 · 01-29-2009, 11:41 AM

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Truth, there are no sure fire prospects this year. Teams won't be clammering to get ahold of a Matt Ryan,

Were you around last year? Everyone was saying the same stuff last year about Ryan and Flacco.

"We cant take a QB!!" "On noes!!" "its just too risky!!"

"These guys are not good enough to be first round picks!!!"

kcbubb · 01-29-2009, 11:41 AM

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What if they couldn't move down?

They should be able to move down. Several teams are in need of a wide receiver and I don't see Crabtree lasting #5. The 49ers at pick #10 need both a wideout and possibly a QB. Guess who there leading receiver was last year?

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