Are you a FF baller or a homer? - Page 3

Logical · 08-15-2006, 01:49 AM

If you say you are taking LJ count yourself as a homer.

If you say Shawn Alexander then count yourself as a baller

If you are in a league with QBs that get 6 then you have other options.

This could all change if Roaf comes back so for now assume Roaf is not coming back.

**noa** · 08-15-2006, 10:40 AM

Anyone who takes Tiki before LJ is crazy. He had a great season last year, but you can't rely on him consisently scoring TDs from outside the red zone. They have Brandon Jacobs for goal line situations. The Chiefs have no one to take away LJ's touchdowns.

ct · 08-15-2006, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Picking LJ #1 doesn't make you a homer. Just as we are without Roaf, Alexander is without Steve Hutchinson.

LJ minus Roaf and TRich, injury risk LT and unproven FB replacements.
Alexander minus Hutchinson, no idea who his replacement is.
LT minus Drew Brees, unproven QB replacement.

They all have question marks. IMO, the Roaf retirement levels these 3 out, prior to that LJ was a CLEAR #1 choice. At this point you can take your pick of the 3 at #1, and be easily justified.

patteeu · 08-15-2006, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by coryt

LJ minus Roaf and TRich, injury risk LT and unproven FB replacements.
Alexander minus Hutchinson, no idea who his replacement is.
LT minus Drew Brees, unproven QB replacement.

They all have question marks. IMO, the Roaf retirement levels these 3 out, prior to that LJ was a CLEAR #1 choice. At this point you can take your pick of the 3 at #1, and be easily justified.

Logical says that LJ is 4 thru 7 in a knowledgeable league. I guess we can see where that leaves you, Mr. Easily Justified.

**MahiMike** · 08-15-2006, 11:45 AM

2 years ago I had Priest, Tony and Chiefs defense. I passed on a trade to get Trent for McNabb. I came in 2nd that year. Had I made the trade, I'd have won the $1000 and the trophy althewhile cheering on my Chiefs as a homer.

"You're not a homer if your team is the best. You're just a good assessor of talent."

Of course with Al, DV, TRich and Willie gone, all bets are off...Dammit Carl!

**RealSNR** · 08-15-2006, 12:29 PM

I think Logical still just wants to hate LJ, and wishes that he still had his diapers on and that Priest was still the main guy.

It's ridiculous to think that Roaf will drop LJ to 5 and beyond. Do you realize that even though Roaf likely won't be on the team, the Chiefs WILL replace him at that position? They won't go into the game with just 4 offensive linemen for crying out loud.

I wouldn't take LT #1 even if LJ and SA were both injured for the remainder of the season. That guy had 6 amazing games and the rest were eh, not to mention he dropped a couple of turds during the season. Like... oh say... BOTH games against the Chiefs, and that one where he had less than 20 total yards from scrimmage or something like that. He's inconsistant, and not deserving of the #1 overall pick in fantasy football.

**RealSNR** · 08-15-2006, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by noa949

Anyone who takes Tiki before LJ is crazy. He had a great season last year, but you can't rely on him consisently scoring TDs from outside the red zone. They have Brandon Jacobs for goal line situations. The Chiefs have no one to take away LJ's touchdowns.

Tiki scores about as often as Clitoris Portis. Which is as often as a reeruned nun.

**RealSNR** · 08-15-2006, 12:33 PM

STOP THE HATIN, LOGICAL!

JBucc · 08-15-2006, 12:38 PM

I would take LJ number one and if fact I did in one league, but I wouldn't take any other Chiefs in the early rounds. We all saw how LJ's awesomepissedoffrunyourpunkassoverness took TD's away from the other guys. Although I do expect TG to have a bit of a bounce back year as far as Touchdowns.

**RealSNR** · 08-15-2006, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JBucc

I would take LJ number one and if fact I did in one league, but I wouldn't take any other Chiefs in the early rounds. We all saw how LJ's awesomepissedoffrunyourpunkassoverness took TD's away from the other guys. Although I do expect TG to have a bit of a bounce back year as far as Touchdowns.

Green as well. As LJ becomes more of a force on all those checkdowns the Chiefs like to run, Green will be able to feed Kennison, Gonzo, and Parker on red zone possessions rather than just have LJ run it in.

ct · 08-15-2006, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

Logical says that LJ is 4 thru 7 in a knowledgeable league. I guess we can see where that leaves you, Mr. Easily Justified.

Yeah, just league champ 3 of last 4 years. But my league must just be really easy right? We don't realize that Marvin is so much more valuable than LJ.

The key is to understand your league scoring. Not sure what it might be, but perhaps there is something to Logical's system that makes sense for his claim.

Tell ya what though, in my league, RBs who score TDs and get receptions RULE!!! If Alexander was more of a receiver in that offense, he'd be King Shit w/out question!

patteeu · 08-15-2006, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by coryt

Yeah, just league champ 3 of last 4 years. But my league must just be really easy right? We don't realize that Marvin is so much more valuable than LJ.

The key is to understand your league scoring. Not sure what it might be, but perhaps there is something to Logical's system that makes sense for his claim.

Tell ya what though, in my league, RBs who score TDs and get receptions RULE!!! If Alexander was more of a receiver in that offense, he'd be King Shit w/out question!

My comment was a dig at Logical, not at you.

ct · 08-15-2006, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

My comment was a dig at Logical, not at you.

I know, so was mine. Tis all good.

Logical · 08-15-2006, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

I think Logical still just wants to hate LJ, and wishes that he still had his diapers on and that Priest was still the main guy.

It's ridiculous to think that Roaf will drop LJ to 5 and beyond. Do you realize that even though Roaf likely won't be on the team, the Chiefs WILL replace him at that position? They won't go into the game with just 4 offensive linemen for crying out loud.

I wouldn't take LT #1 even if LJ and SA were both injured for the remainder of the season. That guy had 6 amazing games and the rest were eh, not to mention he dropped a couple of turds during the season. Like... oh say... BOTH games against the Chiefs, and that one where he had less than 20 total yards from scrimmage or something like that. He's inconsistant, and not deserving of the #1 overall pick in fantasy football.

This is just silly I won one league and was second in the other, my workhorses were LJ and LT in one league and LJ and Tiki in the other. No way I get LJ in the fifth round this year though. Our scoring system is just such that a RB who catches the ball a lot is a much bigger stud than an LJ will be unless LJ gets 29 TDs In our league Alexander was #1 scorer, Tiki was 2, LT was three, Steve Smith was 4 a Marvin Harrison was 5 and LJ was 6. It is all the points for receptions that really helps in our league.

bogie · 08-15-2006, 02:02 PM

I'm too much of a homer. I don't play FF at all.

kc rush · 08-15-2006, 04:02 PM

I never draft a raider or a donk for my teams. The thought of rooting for them in any fashion makes me sick.

08-15-2006, 01:49 AM
Logical Screw U if U can't take a joke Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	Are you a FF baller or a homer? If you say you are taking LJ count yourself as a homer. If you say Shawn Alexander then count yourself as a baller If you are in a league with QBs that get 6 then you have other options. This could all change if Roaf comes back so for now assume Roaf is not coming back.
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08-15-2006, 10:40 AM	#31
noa Band Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $1105453	Anyone who takes Tiki before LJ is crazy. He had a great season last year, but you can't rely on him consisently scoring TDs from outside the red zone. They have Brandon Jacobs for goal line situations. The Chiefs have no one to take away LJ's touchdowns. __________________ Sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes, well, he eats you.
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08-15-2006, 11:45 AM	#34
MahiMike He's Mahomie! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Jax, FL Casino cash: $10023443	2 years ago I had Priest, Tony and Chiefs defense. I passed on a trade to get Trent for McNabb. I came in 2nd that year. Had I made the trade, I'd have won the $1000 and the trophy althewhile cheering on my Chiefs as a homer. "You're not a homer if your team is the best. You're just a good assessor of talent." Of course with Al, DV, TRich and Willie gone, all bets are off...Dammit Carl!
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08-15-2006, 12:29 PM	#35
RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $1870208	I think Logical still just wants to hate LJ, and wishes that he still had his diapers on and that Priest was still the main guy. It's ridiculous to think that Roaf will drop LJ to 5 and beyond. Do you realize that even though Roaf likely won't be on the team, the Chiefs WILL replace him at that position? They won't go into the game with just 4 offensive linemen for crying out loud. I wouldn't take LT #1 even if LJ and SA were both injured for the remainder of the season. That guy had 6 amazing games and the rest were eh, not to mention he dropped a couple of turds during the season. Like... oh say... BOTH games against the Chiefs, and that one where he had less than 20 total yards from scrimmage or something like that. He's inconsistant, and not deserving of the #1 overall pick in fantasy football.
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08-15-2006, 12:33 PM	#37
RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $1870208	STOP THE HATIN, LOGICAL!
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08-15-2006, 12:38 PM	#38
JBucc MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Casino cash: $10004952	I would take LJ number one and if fact I did in one league, but I wouldn't take any other Chiefs in the early rounds. We all saw how LJ's awesomepissedoffrunyourpunkassoverness took TD's away from the other guys. Although I do expect TG to have a bit of a bounce back year as far as Touchdowns.
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08-15-2006, 02:02 PM	#44
bogie West Coast Chief Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: california Casino cash: $10004900	I'm too much of a homer. I don't play FF at all. __________________
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08-15-2006, 04:02 PM	#45
kc rush Blah Blah Blah Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In front of the computer. Casino cash: $3859559	I never draft a raider or a donk for my teams. The thought of rooting for them in any fashion makes me sick.
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