Game-Plan: LJ all day--crossing and seam patterns to Gonzo & Eddie

[Mr. Kotter]

With Huard, it's our best bet (and based on what Herm is saying)....

It's likely to be a lot of double TE sets, and max protect in obvious passing situations.

With deep balls, Kennison and Parker better hold onto the few opportunities they will get. Otherwise, Denver will put 9 in the box pretty quick....

If our Defense can pressure Jake the Fake into a couple of TOs, and if they can stop the run on first down....

If we don't become entirely one-dimensional and predictable--especially on first down...



I really think we can make a game of it against the Donks. That's a managable number of "ifs".....isn't it?








Otherwise, we are likely 0-2 to start.

[Mr. Kotter]

Originally Posted by bringbackmarty

I'm thinking svitek, tackle eligible on first and second down, just run it. Third and short, quick slant to dante, screen pass to lj. third and long, draw play or gonzalez up the seam. Make our superstars win the game for us. Perimeter running, inside running. Our defense will be okay.

I agree....while many of us are saying....LJ left, LJ right, and LJ up-the-middle...most of us understand that you STILL have to pass the ball.

Quick-hitters....slant, seam, crossing patterns....will force them out of an 8-9 guys in the box/blitzing gameplan, as GAZ says...but they better be safe, and they better be efficient. With Huard and our OL situation, that won't be easy.

I hope Herm had them concentrate on a handful of plays to open up those running lanes, and I hope he repped the crap out of them. Expecting Huard and this crew to open up the play book and spread the field.....would be a pipe-dream. So, pick a few plays you think Denver will be vulnerable to, and make sure we can run them.

So, yes, that puts the game squarely on the shoulders of LJ and Gonzo, as far as I can tell.....

[Calcountry]

Originally Posted by Chief Chief

Whatchabetdat Herm, seeing that the Chiefs and Bonkos only scored 10 points each last week, will run-run-run all day long and figure we'll be the ones on top in a really low-scoring affair?

Suppose that Plumber getts off a big play and scores a quick touchdown on us?

It's all over the moment they do that. I think they know it, and look for them to go long early. Our D better be up for it, otherwise I am going to mow my lawn instead of watching this game.

[StcChief]

Originally Posted by bunnytrdr

Suppose that Plumber getts off a big play and scores a quick touchdown on us?

It's all over the moment they do that. I think they know it, and look for them to go long early. Our D better be up for it, otherwise I am going to mow my lawn instead of watching this game.

I don't think so Law,Surtain will blanket Rod Smith and whomever is on the other side. Cover2 looks for seam route.

Wow. lawn work over Chiefs/Donxs game.

[ChiefFan31]

Originally Posted by Hydrae

You really do hate Huard don't you?

Just a little sarcasm in my post

No, Huard would not last long at all. Then poor Croyle would get tossed into the fire

[ChiefFan31]

Originally Posted by Gaz

I am pretty much of the same mind, Mr. Kotter. We have to make Denver back off the LOS.

Were I the Denver DC, I would have nine players close to the OL and I would send at least [1] of them on nearly every down. I would concentrate on Gonzalez and spend my risk ration on Kennison or Parker, counting on my D getting into the backfield and breaking Huard’s timing. Denver has the personnel to accomplish that strategy.

My concern is that we lack the OL & QB to take advantage of the situation. Our OL is in tatters at both right and left Tackle positions. We lost a great blocking FB and our QB is about as inexperienced as a veteran can be. In order for us to force Denver off the LOS with max protect in play, Huard will have to hit Gonzalez, Dunn [Wilson?], Kennison and Parker [and Hall?] quickly and accurately [before the Predominantly Orange tide washes over him].

Denver can play sloppy and still win the game. We do not have that luxury. We will have to execute flawlessly. Can the Chiefs execute flawlessly at Invesco, with a busted OL and a backup QB?

xoxo~
Gaz
Not used to fretting over the Chiefs OL.

Good Post. I think that is exactly what Denver will do. They will constantly have 9 floating up in the box or around the LOS. They will utilize a lot of the zero blitz and probably will blitz every gap in obvious run situations. It will make it tough.

That is what they did last year, and it helped propel them to one of the top D's in the league. Did you see the game last year on Thankgiving against the Cowboys? They were zero blitz all day, why?? because the have decent to good coverage in the secondary, and because the cowboys O line is not good. They knew they could get to the QB and disrupt the timing/play and they would not be able to get off a deep pass. Not to mention if the RB got the ball they could just swallow him up.

If we could pop a long run with LJ breaking a tackle, or well executed blocking by our O-line, or perhaps Parker/EK can burn one of their DB's we might be able to get them to back off a bit....It will be tough...no doubt about it.

[craneref]

Swing the ball out to LJ or to Bennett, get their LB's guesing whether it is going to be smash mouth or finesse, LJ only needs a bit of a seem to take it to the house, I hope they stack the box with 9, LJ will have at least 2 very long runs against them if they do, plus I think the Bennett with his speed would make them pay. Maybe see LJ an dBennett in the game at the same time, who do you defend?? I amexcited everyweek for a CHIEFS game, but even more so this week, the stars are lining up, We have never won at Invesco, we have a backup QB going and LJ losthis string of 100 yard games, and the "D" will show that the minimal yards allowed was no fluke last weekend, this could be an embarrassment for the . GO CHIEFS!!

[Mr. Kotter]

Originally Posted by craneref

Swing the ball out to LJ or to Bennett, get their LB's guesing whether it is going to be smash mouth or finesse, LJ only needs a bit of a seem to take it to the house, I hope they stack the box with 9, LJ will have at least 2 very long runs against them if they do, plus I think the Bennett with his speed would make them pay. Maybe see LJ an dBennett in the game at the same time, who do you defend?? I amexcited everyweek for a CHIEFS game, but even more so this week, the stars are lining up, We have never won at Invesco, we have a backup QB going and LJ losthis string of 100 yard games, and the "D" will show that the minimal yards allowed was no fluke last weekend, this could be an embarrassment for the . GO CHIEFS!!

I hope you are right, though I'm not feeling it at the moment.

It would be humiliating for the Broncos, that's for sure.

[keg in kc]

I'm not sure this is the best way to attack what's basically the strength of Denver's defense (their LBs). We need to attack them the same way they attack us, i.e. misdirection and playaction, use their speed against them.

[Mr. Kotter]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I'm not sure this is the best way to attack what's basically the strength of Denver's defense (their LBs). We need to attack them the same way they attack us, i.e. misdirection and playaction, use their speed against them.

In an ideal world, you would be right. With Huard at QB, and our OLine in the shape it's in....it may be our only prayer, IMHO.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

In an ideal world, you would be right. With Huard at QB, and our OLine in the shape it's in....it may be our only prayer, IMHO.

That was my way of saying "it wouldn't work". Not a prayer at all. They'll be hitting Huard before he hits the 3rd step in his drop. They'll start playing press, sit on the routes and we'll never complete anything. Better bet would be to go big, run a lot of 2/3 TE sets, go max protect and play action.

[Mr. Kotter]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

...Better bet would be to go big, run a lot of 2/3 TE sets, go max protect and play action.

If we have to do that, we will get blown out. Seriously, blown-away.

Some play actions would be good, but no passing game other than that? Would be a complete disaster afaic.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

If we have to do that, we will get blown out. Seriously, blown-away.

Some play actions would be good, but no passing game other than that? Would be a complete disaster afaic.

I never said no passing game other than that. You always need to mix things up. I just don't think we'll complete many passes in the type of blocking schemes we saw last weekend. Denver is a better defense across the board, on the line, at linebacker and in the secondary. We're going to have to keep help in for both tackles. Running multiple-receiver sets more than occasionally will get Huard killed, and if we exclusively go to short passing, Denver will start to sit on the routes and we'll give up points the other way on picks. And trying to out-and-up, setting them up with the short passing game, won't work either, because we're not going to be able to give Huard time to drop back 7 steps.

I'm sorry, but from where I'm sitting, the only way we win tomorrow is if LJ runs for 150 yards and sets the playaction game up, and our defense plays the best game we've seen from them in a decade. Not only will we need to stop Denver, we'll need to take the ball away.

That doesn't mean Martyball. Saunders won some games using more rushing/playaction, too. I think it's our best bet.

I think it's going to take a perfect performance on both sides of the ball to win tomorrow. No mistakes on offense or special teams, long drives that end in points and an opportunistic defense that gets takeaways. All that just to have a chance.

Personally, I think we're going to get blown off the field.

[Mr. Kotter]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

....

I'm sorry, but from where I'm sitting, the only way we win tomorrow is if LJ runs for 150 yards and sets the playaction game up, and our defense plays the best game we've seen from them in a decade. Not only will we need to stop Denver, we'll need to take the ball away.

That doesn't mean Martyball. Saunders won some games using more rushing/playaction, too. I think it's our best bet.

I think it's going to take a perfect performance on both sides of the ball to win tomorrow. No mistakes on offense or special teams, long drives that end in points and an opportunistic defense that gets takeaways. All that just to have a chance.

Personally, I think we're going to get blown off the field.

I think you are under-estimating the Cincinatti defense, and giving the Donks too much credit. I agree their LBs will give us fits. However, their secondary and DLine don't worry me too much.

I do think play-action will be effective. I do think we need to play really well. But perfect? That's your negitivism creeping in....

Denver got beat by St. Louis. The RAMS for heaven's sakes! I know the TOs killed them....but we are MUCH better than the Rams. Watch.

If they get out on top early, YOU are right; we are toast. If we can stay close, or jump ahead early AND the running game works....those short to intermediate routes will open up.

JMHO. We shall see.

[keg in kc]

I'm not being negative. It's Invesco. We can't win there with a good line/team...

I hope tomorrow is the time it finally happens. I just don't think it will be.

Plus, hell, Michigan beat Notre Lame today. The gods of football aren't going to give me two in the same weekend...


And you are right about one thing. We have to keep it close. If we get behind early, we're done.

[Mr. Kotter]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

....Plus, hell, Michigan beat Notre Lame today. The gods of football aren't going to give me two in the same weekend....

FWIW, I'm not expecting us to win; just hopin' we can....or we can at least be competitive.

Wasn't that "sweet!?" Anytime the Irish lose, it's a GREAT weekend! Too bad OU and NU lost.....

With that, maybe the football Gods have ONE more upset in mind for us?