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**Bugeater** · 01:17 PM

August 19 Michigan 12 p.m.
August 25 Bristol 7 p.m.
September 2 Atlanta 6:30 p.m.
September 8 Richmond 7 p.m.
September 16 Chicago 1 p.m.
September 23 Loudon 1 p.m.
September 30 Dover 1 p.m.
October 7 Talladega 1 p.m.
October 13 Charlotte 7 p.m.
October 21 Kansas 1 p.m.
October 28 Martinsville 1 p.m.
November 4 Texas 2 p.m.
November 11 Phoenix 2 p.m.
November 18 Homestead 2 p.m.

stonedstooge · 02-29-2012, 09:12 PM

What kind of advantage could a car get by the modification of some sheet metal in the C posts? Perhaps weight?

**Bugeater** · 02-29-2012, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge

What kind of advantage could a car get by the modification of some sheet metal in the C posts? Perhaps weight?

The explanation doesn't even make sense, that article said "between the roof and side windows", but the C post is actually the area between the side window and rear window. Now if they modified the edge of the roofline, then that would change the car's aerodynamics.

But whatever, I'm glad they got nailed. Probably won't have much long term affect on the team though.

**Dylan** · 02-29-2012, 09:20 PM

Old Dog, you're funny. Like the kids off the short bus funny, but still, funny.

Off you go!

Go Giants!

Go #18!

**Bugeater** · 02-29-2012, 09:21 PM

Ok, that's enough children. Don't make me pull this thread over.

**dannybcaitlyn** · 02-29-2012, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater

The explanation doesn't even make sense, that article said "between the roof and side windows", but the C post is actually the area between the side window and rear window. Now if they modified the edge of the roofline, then that would change the car's aerodynamics.

But whatever, I'm glad they got nailed. Probably won't have much long term affect on the team though.

The thing is, if it was not going to be beneficial , then why even modify it from stock form. Knaus had to see it as some sort of advantage or he wouldn't have done it in the first place.

stonedstooge · 02-29-2012, 09:46 PM

NASCAR site cites a rule that states aerodynamic enhancement, so that must be it

Demonpenz · 02-29-2012, 09:46 PM

you can change the aero with the springs and the track bar but that effects the tire wear. I am sure this was made to tighten up the car without adding drag. (Of course wear on tires isn't as bad at tona)

**Bugeater** · 02-29-2012, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn

The thing is, if it was not going to be beneficial , then why even modify it from stock form. Knaus had to see it as some sort of advantage or he wouldn't have done it in the first place.

Oh, I don't doubt that they did it to gain an advantage, just thought the description of the area was a bit odd.

**dannybcaitlyn** · 02-29-2012, 11:11 PM

The competition is so tough and you can see how close things are when you look at the qualifying times of the field at any track. Every nascar team is digging around that grey area to get a advantage. Knaus crosses the line more often. So I ask you this. Do you believe the legacy of knaus/johnson with the 5 championships is now tarnished with all the times they've been caught cheating? Same comparison to the patriots with the spygate deal?

kcxiv · 02-29-2012, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn

The competition is so tough and you can see how close things are when you look at the qualifying times of the field at any track. Every nascar team is digging around that grey area to get a advantage. Knaus crosses the line more often. So I ask you this. Do you believe the legacy of knaus/johnson with the 5 championships is now tarnished with all the times they've been caught cheating? Same comparison to the patriots with the spygate deal?

WEll since they passed them inspections, i would say no, but they need harsher penalties no doubt about it. Something thats crippling so they dont cross them lines. Especially repeat offenders like this. This should cost him a race.

Abba-Dabba · 03-01-2012, 01:25 AM

Everyone cheats in nascar. From the executives of nascar to the catch can man. Jimmie Johnson and Chad Knaus are no more prone to it than Dick Trickle or Dave Marcis to Roger Penske or Junior Johnson.

You can't suspend the drivers or you lose sponsorships. You lose the millions supporting these teams. Sponsors don't want to brand themselves with a crew chief, owner or a car make. They look to brand themselves alongside a driver. Not his fill-in for the next 4 weeks.

Al Bundy · 03-01-2012, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by smittysbar

Those "slow" Fords, were the fastest cars on the track most of the week, and last night.

88 made a mistake by not putting Biff into the wall to get the slower car out of the way. No biggie, a Chevy will win the points championship again anyway.

**Dylan** · 03-03-2012, 03:11 PM

NASCAR Nationwide Series at Phoenix

ESPN: Coming up!

smittysbar · 03-04-2012, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by UCF Knight

88 made a mistake by not putting Biff into the wall to get the slower car out of the way. No biggie, a Chevy will win the points championship again anyway.

Not the 88

GoHuge · 03-04-2012, 02:02 PM

All right now back to some regular racing so we can see who's got what. I'm a Chevy guy, but I tell ya those Ford motors were smokin at Daytona...........lets just hope that was because they have a better restrictor plate program and Chevy and Toyota.

Fantasy team (The ESPN Stock Car Challenge): 48, 88, 14, 20, 78.

BTW worst National Anthem I've heard in quite some time!!

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dannybcaitlyn Supporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Casino cash: $5164000	The competition is so tough and you can see how close things are when you look at the qualifying times of the field at any track. Every nascar team is digging around that grey area to get a advantage. Knaus crosses the line more often. So I ask you this. Do you believe the legacy of knaus/johnson with the 5 championships is now tarnished with all the times they've been caught cheating? Same comparison to the patriots with the spygate deal?
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Abba-Dabba MVP Join Date: May 2001 Casino cash: $4502970	Everyone cheats in nascar. From the executives of nascar to the catch can man. Jimmie Johnson and Chad Knaus are no more prone to it than Dick Trickle or Dave Marcis to Roger Penske or Junior Johnson. You can't suspend the drivers or you lose sponsorships. You lose the millions supporting these teams. Sponsors don't want to brand themselves with a crew chief, owner or a car make. They look to brand themselves alongside a driver. Not his fill-in for the next 4 weeks.
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GoHuge The Truth Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $10006072	All right now back to some regular racing so we can see who's got what. I'm a Chevy guy, but I tell ya those Ford motors were smokin at Daytona...........lets just hope that was because they have a better restrictor plate program and Chevy and Toyota. Fantasy team (The ESPN Stock Car Challenge): 48, 88, 14, 20, 78. BTW worst National Anthem I've heard in quite some time!!
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