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**Tribal Warfare** · 07-05-2013, 11:21 PM

Jaworski rates Chiefs QB at No. 20 among NFL starters

The Kansas City Star
Former NFL quarterback-turned-broadcaster Ron Jaworski ranks new Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith No. 20 among the NFL's 32 starting quarterbacks.

That's according to Jaworski's ratings on ESPN's MediaZone site, transcribed from his three-minute daily segments dubbed "Jaws' QB Countdown" on SportsCenter and NFL Live.

Smith, of course, was acquired in a trade from San Francisco this offseason, and has yet to throw a pass in Kansas City (aside from OTAs, that is).

Here are some excerpts from Jaworski's evaluation of Smith:

“A year ago, Smith was coming off his best season in the NFL, having led the 49ers to the NFC Championship. This year, he’s the starting quarterback for the Kansas City Chiefs. It was a great move by (Chiefs coach) Andy Reid to acquire Smith.

“The defining element of Smith’s play is efficiency. He executes the offense the way it’s designed, and he makes very few mistakes. Last season – for the second year in a row – he was exceptional on first down. In 2012 he led the NFL in first-down passing, with a quarterback rating of 119. Much of it came off play-action, or in the case of the 49ers, hard run-action out of base personnel. There was no better play-action quarterback last season than Smith. He had a quarterback rating of over 132.

“Smith has been outstanding out of multiple tight end personnel over the last couple of seasons. No quarterback has thrown the ball more with three tight ends on the field. You don’t see that very often in today’s NFL.

“This play was beautifully designed with all three tight ends to the same side. First, look at the impact of the run-action on the two linebackers and the safety. This was hard run-action. Then you see that Delanie Walker’s vertical route occupied the corner. That left Vernon Davis matched on a safety, a safety that initially reacted to run. He had no chance on Davis’ wheel route.

“One area Smith improved in 2012 was in the pre-snap phase of the game. He was much better at the line of scrimmage checking and audibling.

“It will be interesting to see what Andy Reid does in Kansas City. Don’t be surprised if he turns Smith loose a little bit and features an up-tempo offense with an emphasis on quick throws. Remember, Alex Smith played for Urban Meyer at Utah.”

Other QB's that Jaworski has analyzed so far:

No. 32 Matt Flynn

No. 31 Jake Locker

No. 30 Kevin Kolb

No. 29 Chad Henne

No. 28 Mark Sanchez

No. 27 Christian Ponder

No. 26 Brandon Weeden

No. 25 Michael Vick

No. 24 Ryan Tannehill

No. 23 Carson Palmer

No. 22 Sam Bradford

No. 21 Josh Freeman

milkman · 07-06-2013, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

The irony is Smith is rated higher than several QB's that has we drafted CP would be super happy with.

For example most of CP believes we would be better off with Josh Freeman who is ranked lower than Smith, but hey it would still be better because you know, we would have drafted him.

Worse QB that you daft > better QB you trade for/ CP

The reality is in the end it doesn't matter as long as you have the best possible option available to you as your QB and that's what Smith is at this time.

Had we drafted Smith CP would think he was good enough.

I am not a Freeman fan, and would not have been happy with a trade to acquire him either.

That said, I would be less unhappy with that trade.
He is still young, and if he started to really grow and became a top 10-12 Q, he would open an 8 year realistic window for this team.

As I've mentioned before, only 4 SBs have been won by QBs over the age of 33.

I am not entirely against the idea of trading for a QB, but trading for a 29 year old QB reaa

milkman · 07-06-2013, 10:17 AM

To finish the thought, trading for a 29 year old QB limits you to about a 4 year window realisticly.

mcaj22 · 07-06-2013, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

To finish the thought, trading for a 29 year old QB limits you to about a 4 year window realisticly.

lets hope to ****ing **** we dont go a mediocre 7-9 or 8-8 and they consider that "improvement" and give him an extension passed next year

I hope they let his contract run out, that's a quick and painless 2 years and we can move on to anything else

Thig Lyfe · 07-06-2013, 10:44 AM

He should be #200

-King- · 07-06-2013, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs

19. Andy Dalton
18. Cam Newton

There aren't 17 QBs better than Cam Newton.

Chris Meck · 07-06-2013, 11:02 AM

Oh yes there are.

Coogs · 07-06-2013, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King-

There aren't 17 QBs better than Cam Newton.

The 17 he has left NFC first:

Brees
Ryan

Wilson
Kaep

Cutler
Rodgers
Stafford

Romo
RG III
E. Manning

AFC:

Luck
Schaub

Rivers
P. Manning

Big Ben
Flacco

Brady

TheUte · 07-06-2013, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs

The 17 he has left NFC first:

Brees
Ryan

Wilson
Kaep

Cutler
Rodgers
Stafford

Romo
RG III
E. Manning

AFC:

Luck
Schaub

Rivers
P. Manning

Big Ben
Flacco

Brady

No way I take Flacco, Stafford, Schaub, Cutler or Eli over Cam thats crazy.

**ShortRoundChief** · 07-06-2013, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheUte

No way I take Flacco, Stafford, Schaub, Cutler or Eli over Cam thats crazy.

I wouldn't take Stafford or Cutler over Cam. I certainly would take Flacco and Eli in a minute. Schaub I'm undecided on.

TheUte · 07-06-2013, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy

I wouldn't take Stafford or Cutler over Cam. I certainly would take Flacco and Eli in a minute. Schaub I'm undecided on.

So you want a QB who lives off of jump balls.

Not me, go back and watch Flacco and Eli in the playoffs and tell me LUCK wasn't the reason they won.

Eli is so ****ing overrated it's amazing, but you know what they say "sometimes its better to be lucky than good."

Just Passin' By · 07-06-2013, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheUte

No way I take Flacco, Stafford, Schaub, Cutler or Eli over Cam thats crazy.

Every one of them is better than Newton's been, to date.

L.A. Chieffan · 07-06-2013, 11:31 AM

Way too low

mcaj22 · 07-06-2013, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheUte

So you want a QB who lives off of jump balls.

Not me, go back and watch Flacco and Eli in the playoffs and tell me LUCK wasn't the reason they won.

Eli is so ****ing overrated it's amazing, but you know what they say "sometimes its better to be lucky than good."

yea Flaccos efficient playoff run of 11 touchdowns and no picks

pure luck

lol

Brock · 07-06-2013, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheUte

So you want a QB who lives off of jump balls.

Not me, go back and watch Flacco and Eli in the playoffs and tell me LUCK wasn't the reason they won.

Eli is so ****ing overrated it's amazing, but you know what they say "sometimes its better to be lucky than good."

**loochy** · 07-06-2013, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier

That's not a plan. Just drafting a QB at one regardless of who isn't a plan.

neither is randomly grabbing a semi-available QB because nothing else is available

it's like taking home a 3 because the bar is closing and you admit you are too desperate to wait until tomorrow to have a chance at an 8

07-05-2013, 11:21 PM
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