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IMO, anyone that doesn't think it is an ownership thing, has their head buried the sand. The second round pick given up for Cassel and the first one for Alex Smith were also very high second round picks, unlike this years pick. |
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04-03-2014, 08:15 AM | #50 |
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04-03-2014, 08:15 AM | #51 |
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04-03-2014, 08:18 AM | #52 |
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NO. You keep frickin changing your story. You don't get to keep saying people don't understand you when your point is a bad one.
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04-03-2014, 08:21 AM | #53 |
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BTW, I really don't buy the "Dorsey makes all the decisions" thing. I think Reid has a lot more say in personnel than they keep saying. It seems that some of the moves so far, especially last season, have been more "Reid Eagles" than "Green Bay Packers". I don't think you can point at Ted Thompson articles like this and say "that's what the Chiefs are going to do".
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04-03-2014, 08:23 AM | #56 | |
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(And let me first reiterate that I hate that we gave up two picks for Smith. That's always been my biggest issue with it...) In all of the various and sundry discussions about drafting a QB on this board over the years, I can't count the number of times I've seen people say they would do "whatever it takes" to acquire a franchise quarterback. Just as an example, I've seen the Redskins lauded by certain proponents of a first round QB (myself included) for the RGIII move, because they, basically, had the balls to attempt something that this franchise is clearly not interested in (if not outright terrified of...) doing. So let's say, as a theoretical exercise, that we're in the draft in may, round about pick 14, and the Chiefs see a quarterback that they really like on the board. Somebody they like so much that they're willing to offer the Bears a couple of picks to take their spot. Carr, Manziel, whoever. Doesn't really matter what the name is. They identify their guy, the guy they think can take over in, let's say 2018, Aaron Rodgers 4 years on the bench style, but they're sure he won't slip past the 14th pick. Should they make that move? Because, you know, they'd be giving up more than one pick, and potentially crippling the franchise since they wouldn't have as many picks to use to put around him... Basically, is the problem with the Alex Smith trade that we lost a 2nd round pick this year (let's consider him the 2013 second rounder - we couldn't have picked up both him and another player with that pick last year, so that pick doesn't change anything around him....), or is the problem that the trade was for Alex Smith himself? If that makes any sense.... Bascially, if a quarterback is a position worth risking multiple picks for, as I think almost all of us in favor of a 1st round QB have said at times over the years, then why is the loss of a 2014 2nd round pick for Smith such an issue? Are we in 'trying to have our cake and eat it, too" territory here? |
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04-03-2014, 08:23 AM | #57 |
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Brilliant reply. Besides trading for Smith who were our big time win now FA moves? Shaun Smith? Besides the Alex Smith trade I don't see a big difference from last year to this year. Perhaps they aren't meeting our expectations because we think we have a chance and we want them to push all their chips to the middle of the table.
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The answer is, obviously, Alex Smith. The defense was largely the same cast of characters, so was the offense. So who was responsible for a NINE WIN swing? That's the definition of "win now". |
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04-03-2014, 08:24 AM | #59 | |
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These types of articles are mostly intended to make people feel better about what the Chiefs are doing right now. |
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