Attn: Hi Def lovers - Page 4

**Skip Towne** · 12-20-2005, 08:37 PM

Now I have proof it is not my imagination. Today I did a 4 TV install with three standards and one Hi Def. As it happened, myself and the customer were able to stand at a point where we could see both the Hi Def and one of the standards at the same time. The Hi Def was hooked to a big screen Mitsubishi and the standard to a 27" Sony. I told him about you clowns worshipping the Hi Def and asked for his opinion. He agreed the standard was every bit as good as the Hi Def. But he said it did improve the picture on the Mitsubishi big screen by about 10% over the Dish Notwork he had on it before I arrived.

C-Mac · 12-21-2005, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I would disagree with this statement.

I have a new Sony LCD and it blew away the pictures on the DLP Samsung right next to it.

To be fair, compare it to all Sony products.

ragedogg69 · 12-21-2005, 12:13 AM

i can only give the opinion of what my eyes see. and they see hdtv being head and sholders over SD. doing picture and picture is not a fair comparison because you are reducing the size of the SD "box". so you eyes see you just assume you are seeing details....

#1 problem with HDTV is millions of people think they are seeing it but they still need an HD Decoder. instead they watch their analog crap saying "HDTV is overrated" (im not assuming anyone here has made that mistake, but millions do)

and HBO is a horrible network to do a comparison. first its film based transfer that wont be are clear and second, on directv they dumb down the bitrate and scan rate so that takes away from the picture.

compare a nice cbs hd football game from you affiliate then we will talk.

Logical · 12-21-2005, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by C-Mac

FWIW LCD is the worst picture of the CRT, DLP, LCD, Plasma group

OK Plasma is better no question but not worth the bucks to get 50" plus Plasma screens. I have never seen 50 inch plus CRTs and even if they exist who can move them. DLP and LCD are very much equivalent.

Miles · 12-21-2005, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by C-Mac

FWIW LCD is the worst picture of the CRT, DLP, LCD, Plasma group

It depends a large part in how well the technology is applied to individual sets. There are medicore as well as excellent products in all of those types.

SLAG · 12-21-2005, 12:19 AM

got a rp crt and it kicks ass....

C-Mac · 12-21-2005, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

OK Plasma is better no question but not worth the bucks to get 50" plus Plasma screens. I have never seen 50 inch plus CRTs and even if they exist who can move them. DLP and LCD are very much equivalent.

CRT Projection is what I'm comparing.

C-Mac · 12-21-2005, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Miles

It depends a large part in how well the technology is applied to individual sets. There are medicore as well as excellent products in all of those types.

Thats why I said compare it across the same brand.
I still dont believe that any TV is more natural and clearer than a projection HD CRT.
HD CRT-based rear-projection technology can produce the blackest blacks of all projection types as well as the full range of color, and brightness, giving a CRT projector the ability to produce the most film-like images of projectors for home use (up to this point).

Miles · 12-21-2005, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by C-Mac

Thats why I said compare it across the same brand.
I still dont believe that any TV is more natural and clearer than a projection HD CRT.

Yeah a well tuned RP CRT can look pretty damn good in the better models. Though I don't think they are making them all that much anymore.

I still prefer the image of a nice plasma but its obviously a decent amount more expensive.

C-Mac · 12-21-2005, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Miles

Yeah a well tuned RP CRT can look pretty damn good in the better models. Though I don't think they are making them all that much anymore.

I still prefer the image of a nice plasma but its obviously a decent amount more expensive.

It boils down to black and whites. If you like true black then CRT wins hands down, if you like a bright picture then LCD and the rest are brighter. To me though, the CRT picture overall is still better than the Plasma.

SLAG · 12-21-2005, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by C-Mac

It boils down to black and whites. If you like true black then CRT wins hands down, if you like a bright picture then LCD and the rest are brighter. To me though, the CRT picture overall is still better than the Plasma.

I got a 48" JVC and I feel it looks better than Most LCD

Hammock Parties · 12-21-2005, 12:40 AM

Just turn the damn lights off in your living room and a projection CRT has plenty of brightness.

C-Mac · 12-21-2005, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SLAG02

I got a 48" JVC and I feel it looks better than Most LCD

Thats because its the better contrasting picture.

C-Mac · 12-21-2005, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs

Just turn the damn lights off in your living room and a projection CRT has plenty of brightness.

No doubt CRT still rules in the contrast war.

**Dartgod** · 12-21-2005, 12:53 AM

A 27" standard def vs. a 50" Hi def is no comaprison. Compare 50" standard against 50" High def and the hi-def wins hands down.

Logical · 12-21-2005, 12:59 AM

My 65 inch RP has an absolutely magnificent picture with fantastic contrast and brightness. I have no complaints about it whatsoever.

12-20-2005, 08:37 PM
Skip Towne Supporter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: T-Town Casino cash: $10004900	Attn: Hi Def lovers Now I have proof it is not my imagination. Today I did a 4 TV install with three standards and one Hi Def. As it happened, myself and the customer were able to stand at a point where we could see both the Hi Def and one of the standards at the same time. The Hi Def was hooked to a big screen Mitsubishi and the standard to a 27" Sony. I told him about you clowns worshipping the Hi Def and asked for his opinion. He agreed the standard was every bit as good as the Hi Def. But he said it did improve the picture on the Mitsubishi big screen by about 10% over the Dish Notwork he had on it before I arrived.
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12-21-2005, 12:13 AM	#47
ragedogg69 Oh yeah..... you like that Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ Casino cash: $10014832	i can only give the opinion of what my eyes see. and they see hdtv being head and sholders over SD. doing picture and picture is not a fair comparison because you are reducing the size of the SD "box". so you eyes see you just assume you are seeing details.... #1 problem with HDTV is millions of people think they are seeing it but they still need an HD Decoder. instead they watch their analog crap saying "HDTV is overrated" (im not assuming anyone here has made that mistake, but millions do) and HBO is a horrible network to do a comparison. first its film based transfer that wont be are clear and second, on directv they dumb down the bitrate and scan rate so that takes away from the picture. compare a nice cbs hd football game from you affiliate then we will talk. __________________ “You think Denver has the greatest fans? Well, they aren’t.” -- Jake Plummer Don't believe me? http://deadspin.com/sports/nfl/plummer-asks-the-world-who-wants-some-131609.php
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12-21-2005, 12:19 AM	#50
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12-21-2005, 12:40 AM	#56
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12-21-2005, 12:53 AM	#59
Dartgod Wasted away again... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: in Margaritaville Casino cash: $7060000	A 27" standard def vs. a 50" Hi def is no comaprison. Compare 50" standard against 50" High def and the hi-def wins hands down. __________________ If you shed a tear for me, please make it a tear of joy. -Joe Tracy (Nzoner) . .
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12-21-2005, 12:59 AM	#60
Logical Screw U if U can't take a joke Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	My 65 inch RP has an absolutely magnificent picture with fantastic contrast and brightness. I have no complaints about it whatsoever.
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