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Hootie · 10-18-2009, 09:31 AM

So...

Do you guys still think Tom Brady is better than Peyton Manning?

Everyone always said that he played with the better supporting cast...which is why Tom was better.

Now Peyton is playing behind a terrible offensive line and throwing to the likes of Austin Collie and Pierre Garcon...having arguably his best year ever...just like I always said...it wasn't the OTHER players...it was Peyton Manning.

So...

Is Brady still better than Manning?

Just curious.

Hootie · 02-09-2010, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DBOSHO

buffalo this year.

**BigMeatballDave** · 02-09-2010, 07:36 PM

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Hootie · 02-09-2010, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Peyton Manning has won 0 Super Bowls where his team wasn't the overwhelming favorite to win.

Peyton Manning has lost 7 games in the playoffs while being favored to win.

Peyton Manning is 9-9 career in the Playoffs.

Tom Brady is 14-4.

Tom Brady has beaten Donovan McNabb, Peyton Manning twice, Phil Rivers twice, Kurt Warner, a prime Steve McNair, and Rich Gannon in the playoffs.

Manning beat Brady once.

In the one Super Bowl Brady lost, he drove his team the length of the field and scored a TD with 3 minutes left.

In the one Super bowl Manning lost, he drove his team to the twenty and threw a game ending pick 6 with 3 minutes left.

so we're forgetting about the drive where Brady had time to get in field goal range but he took two sacks?

and the fact they scored a season low number of points?

How convenient.

**DeezNutz** · 02-09-2010, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

and you're bashing him for losses against Rivers and Roethlisberger where he played well enough to win...

and you're bashing him for a '99 loss where he turned a 3-13 team coming off his rookie season where he turned it around to 13-3 before losing to a BETTER Titans team...

I mean come the **** on...everyone knew they were overachievers that year...they lost 19-16...nice reference.

AND

The only time Peyton has played bad in the postseason was 2003 and 2004 at Foxborro against a better AND heavily favored Patriots team...

And both games the Patriots DEFENSE won that game...as much as Peyton lost it...AND Brady didn't do anything but manage those games...he was nothing special...

The Patriots D on the other hand...

Such a ****ing joke that Brady gets all the credit.

Throwing a game-ending pick goes a long way toward saying a QB played poorly.

And, offensively, the Colts were inefficient after the 1st.

DBOSHO · 02-09-2010, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

Dont worry, ill wait.

Hootie · 02-09-2010, 07:39 PM

Tom Brady was 3-0 in his first three games and did absolutely nothing but manage the games decently and he benefited from unbelievable defensive play, clutch kicking never before witnessed in that Oakland game (and the Super Bowl), and a different QB even winning the AFC Championship game in the first place!

Oh man how legendary!

He won games with a coach that cheated so badly the NFL had to destroy the evidence to protect the game's integrity!

Oh man!

That Tom Brady...

The same guy with lesser postseason stats than Peyton Manning but a beneficiary of having a coach with guts (and an all-time great coach at that) and a superior team his entire career!

Wow!

Mastashake · 02-09-2010, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Throwing a game-ending pick goes a long way toward saying a QB played poorly.

And, offensively, the Colts were inefficient after the 1st.

Peyton Manning : Super Bowl :: Brett Favre : NFC Championship Game

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-09-2010, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

and you're bashing him for losses against Rivers and Roethlisberger where he played well enough to win...

and you're bashing him for a '99 loss where he turned a 3-13 team coming off his rookie season where he turned it around to 13-3 before losing to a BETTER Titans team...

I mean come the **** on...everyone knew they were overachievers that year...they lost 19-16...nice reference.

AND

The only time Peyton has played bad in the postseason was 2003 and 2004 at Foxborro against a better AND heavily favored Patriots team...

And both games the Patriots DEFENSE won that game...as much as Peyton lost it...AND Brady didn't do anything but manage those games...he was nothing special...

The Patriots D on the other hand...

Such a ****ing joke that Brady gets all the credit.

I seem to remember Manning having homefield, Edgerrin James, Tarik Glenn, and Marvin Harrison while losing to a Titans team that needed the Music City Miracle to beat the Bills at home.

I also seem to remember anointing Peyton's feet with oil after beating Denver and then putting up 3 points in the next round of the playoffs, and then bitching to get the rules of the NFL changed.

I also seem to remember Peyton Manning carving up G-Rob's defense then throwing 3 picks to Ty Law.

I also seem to remember that the Colts were not an underdog against the 2004 Patriots. In fact, the spread was a pick 'em, which meant that people thought Indianapolis was better, given that the home team gets 3 points.

You are getting eviscerated here.

Hootie · 02-09-2010, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Throwing a game-ending pick goes a long way toward saying a QB played poorly.

And, offensively, the Colts were inefficient after the 1st.

the Colts were inefficient after the 1st?

Two drives in the 2nd quarter...

The first one ended with a Pierre Garcon momentum killing, game-changing drop on a beautiful 3rd down pass by Manning (that not many other guys could do)...

The second series they were pinned at their own 2...

Wow, how inefficient!

The third quarter I believe they had one and a half drives that resulted in a TD and an end of the quarter change...

Which then resulted in a missed field goal in the 4th quarter...

Which then led to a drive where Manning drove all the way down the field and then threw a pick...

But somehow they were losing...

They punted twice...

Both times in the 2nd quarter...

One because Garcon n00bed himself...the other because they were pinned inside the 2 and were trying to take the game to halftime (stupidly enough)...

I'm telling you..

If Garcon doesn't drop that pass...that game was over.

And I don't care about the Colston drop because it's an entirely different scenario and it happened BEFORE the Garcon drop...

Sure...if Colston catches that pass and the Saints go up 7-3...the entire game would have been different, I know.

Just like had Garcon caught that ball when the Colts had the momentum...13-0 or even 17-0...different game. For sure.

Hootie · 02-09-2010, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I seem to remember Manning having homefield, Edgerrin James, Tarik Glenn, and Marvin Harrison while losing to a Titans team that needed the Music City Miracle to beat the Bills at home.

I also seem to remember anointing Peyton's feet with oil after beating Denver and then putting up 3 points in the next round of the playoffs, and then bitching to get the rules of the NFL changed.

I also seem to remember Peyton Manning carving up G-Rob's defense then throwing 3 picks to Ty Law.

I also seem to remember that the Colts were not an underTIM-MAY! against the 2004 Patriots. In fact, the spread was a pick 'em, which meant that people thought Indianapolis was better, given that the home team gets 3 points.

You are getting eviscerated here.

For every season ending pick thrown by Manning...

I think I can match it, maybe beat it...with Brady.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-09-2010, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

so we're forgetting about the drive where Brady had time to get in field goal range but he took two sacks?

and the fact they scored a season low number of points?

How convenient.

Brady got the ball with 29 seconds left on the clock, dipshit.

And not that it matters, but just to point out that you are literally wrong about everything, he took one sack.

Hootie · 02-09-2010, 07:45 PM

The fact is...

The Colts were outplayed and outcoached.

The Saints defense came up with the one big play of the game...the coaching staff showed major balls and gained an extra possession for the team with an onside kick...and they outsmarted EVERYONE when they went for it on 4th and Goal because it shelled up the Colts offense and made them do something they simply aren't good at...

That's how you win games in the NFL.

**Rausch** · 02-09-2010, 07:46 PM

Manning lost another big game.

I don't know what that means I'm just basking in the glow of teh schadenfreude goodness...

Hootie · 02-09-2010, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Brady got the ball with 29 seconds left on the clock, dipshit.

And not that it matters, but just to point out that you are literally wrong about everything, he took one sack.

They had 35 seconds and AT LEAST 1 timeout, maybe 2...I'd have to check...

Captain clutch did get -10 yards on that drive though...

Not bad for being so clutch.

DBOSHO · 02-09-2010, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

the Colts were inefficient after the 1st?

Two drives in the 2nd quarter...

The first one ended with a Pierre Garcon momentum killing, game-changing drop on a beautiful 3rd down pass by Manning (that not many other guys could do)...

The second series they were pinned at their own 2...

Wow, how inefficient!

The third quarter I believe they had one and a half drives that resulted in a TD and an end of the quarter change...

Which then resulted in a missed field goal in the 4th quarter...

Which then led to a drive where Manning drove all the way down the field and then threw a pick...

But somehow they were losing...

They punted twice...

Both times in the 2nd quarter...

One because Garcon n00bed himself...the other because they were pinned inside the 2 and were trying to take the game to halftime (stupidly enough)...

I'm telling you..

If Garcon doesn't drop that pass...that game was over.

And I don't care about the Colston drop because it's an entirely different scenario and it happened BEFORE the Garcon drop...

Sure...if Colston catches that pass and the Saints go up 7-3...the entire game would have been different, I know.

Just like had Garcon caught that ball when the Colts had the momentum...13-0 or even 17-0...different game. For sure.

Yeah that 15yd quick slant to garcon was a beaut that noone else could throw. So do we automatically discount the wide open colston drop that killed the saints momentum?

Its really humorous the lengths you go to to defend this guy.

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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Tom Brady was 3-0 in his first three games and did absolutely nothing but manage the games decently and he benefited from unbelievable defensive play, clutch kicking never before witnessed in that Oakland game (and the Super Bowl), and a different QB even winning the AFC Championship game in the first place! Oh man how legendary! He won games with a coach that cheated so badly the NFL had to destroy the evidence to protect the game's integrity! Oh man! That Tom Brady... The same guy with lesser postseason stats than Peyton Manning but a beneficiary of having a coach with guts (and an all-time great coach at that) and a superior team his entire career! Wow!
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02-09-2010, 07:45 PM	#597
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	The fact is... The Colts were outplayed and outcoached. The Saints defense came up with the one big play of the game...the coaching staff showed major balls and gained an extra possession for the team with an onside kick...and they outsmarted EVERYONE when they went for it on 4th and Goal because it shelled up the Colts offense and made them do something they simply aren't good at... That's how you win games in the NFL.
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