Football Peyton Manning - Page 41

Hootie · 10-18-2009, 09:31 AM

So...

Do you guys still think Tom Brady is better than Peyton Manning?

Everyone always said that he played with the better supporting cast...which is why Tom was better.

Now Peyton is playing behind a terrible offensive line and throwing to the likes of Austin Collie and Pierre Garcon...having arguably his best year ever...just like I always said...it wasn't the OTHER players...it was Peyton Manning.

So...

Is Brady still better than Manning?

Just curious.

Hootie · 02-09-2010, 07:48 PM

The fact of the Super Bowl is...

Peyton Manning did everything he could do on every possession he got until he threw that pick when they were magically down by 7 despite him playing lights out and making great pass after great pass for the entire game...

They were outcoached...and then they had to play catch up...if that game was tied he wouldn't have had to play hurry up and the pick wouldn't have happened...

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-09-2010, 07:49 PM

Season ending picks by Manning in the playoffs:

Patriots *2
Saints

Brady threw one, the AFC Championship game.

The pick he threw against Denver was not insurmountable. Nor was it a correct call, as Bailey fumbled the ball out of the end zone.

Hootie · 02-09-2010, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DBOSHO

Yeah that 15yd quick slant to garcon was a beaut that noone else could throw. So do we automatically discount the wide open colston drop that killed the saints momentum?

Its really humorous the lengths you go to to defend this guy.

yeah it was a 15 yard quick slant

he threw it off of his back foot with three guys in his face...

I seriously think a lot of people don't even watch the ****ing games.

No...

If Colston catches that ball...things are different, sure...

but that happened before this drop so it's ****ing irrelevant...

does that make sense?

Jesus CHRIST.

Yeah...we could argue that that drop killed their chances right away had the Colts gone up 17-0 if Garcon catches that ball..

For sure.

You could say...

"Man that Colston drop really put the Saints in a spot right away where they just couldn't get back in that game!"

And I'd say you were probably on to something.

DBOSHO · 02-09-2010, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

They had 35 seconds and AT LEAST 1 timeout, maybe 2...I'd have to check...

Captain clutch did get -10 yards on that drive though...

Not bad for being so clutch.

It could be worse i suppose

he couldve thrown a pick 6.

Hootie · 02-09-2010, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Season ending picks by Manning in the playoffs:

Patriots *2
Saints

Brady threw one, the AFC Championship game.

The pick he threw against Denver was not insurmountable. Nor was it a correct call, as Bailey fumbled the ball out of the end zone.

well I count that Denver game and the Ravens game...since both season were over as he was throwing those ridiculous picks

Hootie · 02-09-2010, 07:52 PM

going to the gym...keep up the ludicrous statements about how Brady is better or more clutch than Manning even though he's probably not even the 2nd best QB in the game anymore.

**BigMeatballDave** · 02-09-2010, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

The fact is...

The Colts were outplayed and outcoached.

The Saints defense came up with the one big play of the game...the coaching staff showed major balls and gained an extra possession for the team with an onside kick...and they outsmarted EVERYONE when they went for it on 4th and Goal because it shelled up the Colts offense and made them do something they simply aren't good at...

That's how you win games in the NFL.

You know, this isn't even about Manning vs. Brady anymore. Its about Manning's legacy now. Manning failed to get it done. Deal with it. He is not clutch in the post season. He's one of the greatest. But if he doesnt win another SB, he'll be remembered as a choker. Thats a fact. With the game on the line, he failed to deliver. You're the only one here too stupid to see it. Just admit you're wrong and more on.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-09-2010, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

The fact of the Super Bowl is...

Peyton Manning did everything he could do on every possession he got until he threw that pick when they were magically down by 7 despite him playing lights out and making great pass after great pass for the entire game...

They were outcoached...and then they had to play catch up...if that game was tied he wouldn't have had to play hurry up and the pick wouldn't have happened...

Yeah, like when he missed an open Garcon on the first drive that caused them to settle for 3.

Or when he he almost threw a pick six to Jenkins at mid field on the drive that he ended...with a pick 6.

God knows you have to play hurry up with 6 minutes left, all your timeouts, a 7 point deficit, and a running game that is averaging over 5 yards per carry.

In fact, there's really no other comparison to the kind of stress needed to score in 6 minutes with 4 stoppages of the clock and an efficient running game working for you.

Now, with that said, when you get the ball with 29 seconds left and need to get 50 yards to be in field goal range...that's a perfectly acceptable situation for which to criticize a quarterback.

As long as he's not Peyton Manning.

DBOSHO · 02-09-2010, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

yeah it was a 15 yard quick slant

he threw it off of his back foot with three guys in his face...

I seriously think a lot of people don't even watch the ****ing games.

No...

If Colston catches that ball...things are different, sure...

but that happened before this drop so it's ****ing irrelevant...

does that make sense?

Jesus CHRIST.

Yeah...we could argue that that drop killed their chances right away had the Colts gone up 17-0 if Garcon catches that ball..

For sure.

You could say...

"Man that Colston drop really put the Saints in a spot right away where they just couldn't get back in that game!"

And I'd say you were probably on to something.

the colts were up 10-0. Good teams overcome stuff like that. Get over that drop.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-09-2010, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

well I count that Denver game and the Ravens game...since both season were over as he was throwing those ridiculous picks

Well, you're ****ing stupid, and you continually have to move the goalposts to show new ways in which you can embarrass yourself, so I'm not exactly surprised.

Hootie · 02-09-2010, 07:54 PM

here's one to chew on before I leave...

what is the biggest postseason deficit Brady has led his team back from?

**BigMeatballDave** · 02-09-2010, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

The fact of the Super Bowl is...

Peyton Manning did everything he could do on every possession he got until he threw that pick when they were magically down by 7 despite him playing lights out and making great pass after great pass for the entire game...

They were outcoached...and then they had to play catch up...if that game was tied he wouldn't have had to play hurry up and the pick wouldn't have happened...

WOO HOO SPIN CITY!!1!

DBOSHO · 02-09-2010, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

going to the gym...keep up the ludicrous statements about how Brady is better or more clutch than Manning even though he's probably not even the 2nd best QB in the game anymore.

Keep fuming at your computer.

**BigMeatballDave** · 02-09-2010, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

here's one to chew on before I leave...

what is the biggest postseason deficit Brady has led his team back from?

We do not care. I certainly do not. Eat shit, Hootie. Manning choked. Get over it.

Mastashake · 02-09-2010, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DBOSHO

Keep fuming at your hungry, hungry hippo.

Huh?

10-18-2009, 09:31 AM
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Peyton Manning So... Do you guys still think Tom Brady is better than Peyton Manning? Everyone always said that he played with the better supporting cast...which is why Tom was better. Now Peyton is playing behind a terrible offensive line and throwing to the likes of Austin Collie and Pierre Garcon...having arguably his best year ever...just like I always said...it wasn't the OTHER players...it was Peyton Manning. So... Is Brady still better than Manning? Just curious.
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02-09-2010, 07:48 PM	#601
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	The fact of the Super Bowl is... Peyton Manning did everything he could do on every possession he got until he threw that pick when they were magically down by 7 despite him playing lights out and making great pass after great pass for the entire game... They were outcoached...and then they had to play catch up...if that game was tied he wouldn't have had to play hurry up and the pick wouldn't have happened...
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02-09-2010, 07:49 PM	#602
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7919572	Season ending picks by Manning in the playoffs: Patriots *2 Saints Brady threw one, the AFC Championship game. The pick he threw against Denver was not insurmountable. Nor was it a correct call, as Bailey fumbled the ball out of the end zone. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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02-09-2010, 07:52 PM	#606
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	going to the gym...keep up the ludicrous statements about how Brady is better or more clutch than Manning even though he's probably not even the 2nd best QB in the game anymore.
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02-09-2010, 07:54 PM	#611
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	here's one to chew on before I leave... what is the biggest postseason deficit Brady has led his team back from?
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