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**BossChief** · 12-07-2011, 11:54 PM

I started the year in full support of Haley. This team was developing into one of the better teams in football and were young across the board...despite being handcuffed to Matt Cassel. The growth in almost all of our young talent was apparent and easily recognizable.

His fiery attitude is infectious and the team plays with that emotion and passion. Haleys motivational skills are up there with about anyones.

For that, I was willing to overlook his mismanagement of situational football and a few other deficiencies that come with a first time coach and assumed that he would improve in those areas, with experience.

This is one hell of a hard season to judge because of the lack of an offseason. I am willing to give him a partial pass on the early part of the schedule because I still believe it was the right plan if we are looking at the long term big picture. It just sucks that we coincidentally ran into the injury bug at crucial positions early on.

All that said, his offense is embarrassing to watch while Romeos defense is seemingly entering GOD mode without, arguably, its best player. Everyone on earth (sans Haley, seemingly) can see that Palko has no place in the NFL and Haley is seemingly OK with betting half the year on him. I dont understand what Haley sees from a quarterback that has the weakest arm Ive ever seen in the NFL.

I still think that Haley deserves a shot at it with a real quarterback. This team is giving good effort and I think most agree it would be a contender with a real quarterback. Who could have this team in position to contend with these quarterbacks (Im not even gonna touch the Stanzi situation)?

I guess the way we deal with the remaining 4 games plays a lot into this, but at this point I think it would be a mistake to fire Haley either during or after this year, but I can see why someone would disagree with that opinion and thats why I want to see how a poll on this topic shakes out.

Do YOU think it would be a mistake to fire Todd Haley and replace him prior to next year?

splatbass · 12-11-2011, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

It's still a great site with some awesome posters.

Some awesome posters and a whole bunch of knee jerk pussies.

**notorious** · 12-11-2011, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

Then you were never a Chiefs fan. Quitter.

LiveSteam · 12-11-2011, 05:17 PM

CAN I HAVE MY MOTHER ****ING VOTE BACK?

splatbass · 12-11-2011, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

A coach is expected to put the team in the best position to win. Starting Palko, hell... playing Palko at all, is not putting the team in the best position to win.

Unless Stanzi is worse. He is the only other option, and none of us know if he is better or worse than Palko. It is possible, you must admit, that Haley and Zorn can evaluate a QB that they see every day in practice better than people here who never see them practice can do, right?

**notorious** · 12-11-2011, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

Some awesome posters and a whole bunch of knee jerk pussies.

Yep, we must be having the slowest knee-jerk in ****ing history. Cassel has sucked ass for a LONG time.

jd1020 · 12-11-2011, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

Unless Stanzi is worse. He is the only other option, and none of us know if he is better or worse than Palko. It is possible, you must admit, that Haley and Zorn can evaluate a QB that they see every day in practice better than people here who never see them practice can do, right?

I don't have to see them practice. I watch the games.

memyselfI · 12-11-2011, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

Yep, we must be having the slowest knee-jerk in ****ing history. Cassel has sucked ass for a LONG time.

Funny, he hasn't been in for weeks and, guess what, they've sucked WORSE without him.

NJChiefsFan · 12-11-2011, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

Unless Stanzi is worse. He is the only other option, and none of us know if he is better or worse than Palko. It is possible, you must admit, that Haley and Zorn can evaluate a QB that they see every day in practice better than people here who never see them practice can do, right?

All joking aside, is it ACTUALLY possible to be worse than Palko? Lets pretend that he has been worse, what is the risk? The season is over, see what the young guy has. The preseason alone shows you he can do more than Palko.

memyselfI · 12-11-2011, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by LiveSteam

CAN I HAVE MY MOTHER ****ING VOTE BACK?

Maybe a new poll is needed.

splatbass · 12-11-2011, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

I don't have to see them practice. I watch the games.

What game has Stanzi played in? How can you possibly evaluate him?

jd1020 · 12-11-2011, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

What game has Stanzi played in? How can you possibly evaluate him?

Guess you didn't watch preseason. You know... Where Stanzi showed the best potential of anything at QB this team has.

NJChiefsFan · 12-11-2011, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Guess you didn't watch preseason.

What is everyone worried about? Even if Stanzi has looked horrible can he be worse than Palko? If he is, so what? Oh no, lets not lose a game by a lot of points...

**007** · 12-11-2011, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Guess you didn't watch preseason. You know... Where Stanzi showed the best potential of anything at QB this team has.

He looked better than Palko and Cassel in the preseason.

htismaqe · 12-11-2011, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

Unless Stanzi is worse. He is the only other option, and none of us know if he is better or worse than Palko. It is possible, you must admit, that Haley and Zorn can evaluate a QB that they see every day in practice better than people here who never see them practice can do, right?

Being worse than Palko is simply not possible. At this point they have EVERYTHING to win and nothing to lose.

The entire city is calling for Stanzi. This isn't about them actually being smarter than us, this is about them still believing they need to prove they're smarter than us.

splatbass · 12-11-2011, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

All joking aside, is it ACTUALLY possible to be worse than Palko? Lets pretend that he has been worse, what is the risk? The season is over, see what the young guy has. The preseason alone shows you he can do more than Palko.

I would have liked to have seen him play today, but I will admit that Haley and Zorn are in more of a position to decide if he is ready than I am - or anyone else here. There are a lot of people here with egos so big that they think that without even seeing practice they know more about it than professionals who see them in practice every day.

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BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1615912	Would it be a mistake to fire Todd Haley? I started the year in full support of Haley. This team was developing into one of the better teams in football and were young across the board...despite being handcuffed to Matt Cassel. The growth in almost all of our young talent was apparent and easily recognizable. His fiery attitude is infectious and the team plays with that emotion and passion. Haleys motivational skills are up there with about anyones. For that, I was willing to overlook his mismanagement of situational football and a few other deficiencies that come with a first time coach and assumed that he would improve in those areas, with experience. This is one hell of a hard season to judge because of the lack of an offseason. I am willing to give him a partial pass on the early part of the schedule because I still believe it was the right plan if we are looking at the long term big picture. It just sucks that we coincidentally ran into the injury bug at crucial positions early on. All that said, his offense is embarrassing to watch while Romeos defense is seemingly entering GOD mode without, arguably, its best player. Everyone on earth (sans Haley, seemingly) can see that Palko has no place in the NFL and Haley is seemingly OK with betting half the year on him. I dont understand what Haley sees from a quarterback that has the weakest arm Ive ever seen in the NFL. I still think that Haley deserves a shot at it with a real quarterback. This team is giving good effort and I think most agree it would be a contender with a real quarterback. Who could have this team in position to contend with these quarterbacks (Im not even gonna touch the Stanzi situation)? I guess the way we deal with the remaining 4 games plays a lot into this, but at this point I think it would be a mistake to fire Haley either during or after this year, but I can see why someone would disagree with that opinion and thats why I want to see how a poll on this topic shakes out. Do YOU think it would be a mistake to fire Todd Haley and replace him prior to next year?
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