Chiefs Suck for Luck comes down to Chiefs vs Dolphins - Page 5

**MahiMike** · 10-04-2011, 01:24 PM

By now, everyone has heard of the "Suck for Luck" campaign. Lousy teams surely to miss the playoffs may be inclined to tank the season in order to grab next year's #1 pick. That's where the consensus pick is Stanford's Andrew Luck. The QB so good that Mel Kiper's hair gets mussed up from the excitement of watching him.

If you're not interested in this concept of tanking a season for the betterment of your team, you can go ahead and skip this article. For those of us fans that are fed up with our team's decades of struggles, keep reading.

Right now, none of these teams seem to have embraced this concept willfully. They currently all seem to be - get this - trying to win...lol. I know, I know. Silly isn't it? Of course, this exercise is almost futile but fun nonetheless. Besides, what do fans of these teams have to look forward to anyway? I'm estimating based on a plus/minus of 2 games for each team. There's always the upset or injury that no one can account for.

I took the liberty of mapping out the schedule of each team in the Suck for Luck campaign. I only included teams that for sure could use a new QB. I didn't include lousy teams that just signed their QB recently (Panthers, Jags, Vikings, etc.). Using this information, I came up with 5 main teams; Chiefs, Colts, Dolphins, Broncos and Seahawks. The 1st 4 play against each other and have pivotal matches that will determine their Champion suckage position.

The wildcard team is the Seahawks. Playing in the NFC, they don't face any of the other teams. Still, playing in their woeful division is good for at least a couple games. I can't see how they won't win at least 4 games. They did make the playoffs last year and their schedule is similar to last year's.

Based on this analysis, I've concluded that there could be a 4 way tie for the Championship. I could see the Chiefs, Colts, Dolphins and Broncos each winning 3 games. That would make for a VERY interesting final week. Who will have more turnovers January 1st? Chiefs or Broncos? Will the Colts lay down to division rival Jags? The Jets have been losing, so their January 1st matchup with the Dolphins is already a foregone conclusion.

Assuming the Broncos have no chance vs the Bears or Patriots, their Championship game could actually come a couple weeks early vs the Vikings. Do they pre-tank? Or wait till the last game vs the Chiefs? Something else interesting about New Year's Day? The Chiefs/Broncos game is at 4:00 p.m. EST. By then, the fate of all the other teams in the Suckage Championship will be determined. Interesting indeed.

So, in summary, based on tiebreaker scenarios, the Dolphins actually have the best shot. The Chiefs/Dolphins game is the "Ultimate Suck" game. Since it's in KC, I'll give the Chiefs the unfortunate win here. Since the Chiefs/Broncos figure to split, they tie. Next tie breaker is common opponent which happens to be - the Dolphins.

Personally, as a Chiefs fan of over 40 years, I'd love to see the Dolphins sign Larry Czonka's son before the big game. Otherwise, I'll be doubly ticked if I hear these words next April; "With the 1st pick in the 2012 draft, King Carl Peterson selects...Andrew Luck!".

Chiefs schedule (Estimated 3 wins)

L - Sep 11 Bills
L - Sep 18 @Lions
L - Sep 25 @Chargers
W - Oct 2 Vikes
L? -Oct 9 @Colts (KEY GAME!)
L? -Oct 23 @Raiders
L? -Oct 31 Chargers
W? -Nov 6 Dolphins ("Ultimate Suck" game!)
W? -Nov 13 Broncos (KEY GAME!)
L? -Nov 21 @Patriots
L? -Nov 27 Steelers
L? -Dec 4 @Bears
L? -Dec 11 @Jets
L? -Dec 18 Packers
L? -Dec 24 Raiders
L? -Jan 1 @Broncos (Championship KEY GAME!)

Colts schedule (Estimated 3 wins)

L - Texans
L - Browns
L - Steelers
L - Bucs
W - Chiefs (KEY GAME)
W - Bengals
L - Saints
L - Titans
L - Falcons
W - Jags
L - Panthers
L - Patriots
L - Ravens
L - Titans
L - Texans
L - Jags (Championship KEY GAME!)

Dolphins schedule (Estimated 3 wins)

L - Patriots
L - Texans
L - Browns
L - Chargers
L? - Jets
W? - Broncos (KEY GAME)
W? - Giants
L? - Chiefs ("Ultimate Suck" game!)
L? - Redskins
W? - Bills
L? - Cowbows
L? - Raiders
L? - Eagles
L? - Bills
L? - Patriots
L? - Jets (Championship KEY GAME!)

Broncos schedule (Estimated 3 wins)

L - Raiders
W - Bengals
L - Titans
L - Packers
L? - Chargers
L? - Dolphins (KEY GAME)
L? - Lions
L? - Raiders
L? - Chiefs (KEY GAME)
L? - Jets
L? - Chargers
W? - Vikings
L? - Bears
L? - Patriots
L? - Bills
W? - Chiefs (Championship KEY GAME!)

Seahawks schedule (Estimated 4 wins)

L - 49ers
L - Steelers
W - cardinals
L - Falcons
L? - Giants
W? - Browns
W? - Bengals
L? - Cowboys
L? - Ravens
W? - Rams
L? - Redskins
L? - Eagles
L? - Rams
L? - Bears
L? - 49ers

**The Franchise** · 10-04-2011, 05:15 PM

I wouldn't count out the Redskins either. They have NOTHING at QB and Snyder wouldn't hesitate to trade away an entire draft for Luck.

Chiefs Pantalones · 10-04-2011, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I see winning against an equally awful Vikings team has sparked some hope at 6-10 for some.

Yeah I know and I don't see why either. I watched the game again and both teams are terrible. We won because the Vikings didn't suck as much as we suck for those three hours. It was painful to watch. They converted a 4th and 14 for crying out loud!!! We had five field goals and one TD against a bad defense. We still can't run the ball and the Vikings should get another loss in the column for being idiots not going after our LBs in coverage in the middle of the field. Shianco should've had a bigger game even with my Grandma back there at QB.

I hope no one is getting their hopes up. This is still a three to four win team MAX.

Nightfyre · 10-04-2011, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Okie_Apparition

You want Carl Peterson back? Just when I thought the S4L crew couldn't get any more dumbest

Reading Fail?

Nightfyre · 10-04-2011, 06:05 PM

I'll repeat this here, where it will undoubtedly get more play. Thanks nj for the footage convincing me we absolutely must steer clear of Barkley.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Barkley looked exactly like Cassel in this film, and it wasn't just because he was wearing number 7.

He responds to pressure the same; he makes the same mental mistakes, and I don't think he has an NFL arm.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

jd1020 · 10-04-2011, 06:08 PM

I like Jones over Barkley but I don't see Cassel in Barkley. When Barkley learns to set his feet he'll be pretty good. You don't see Barkley staring in the face of the defender on a pass rush and completely ignoring everything else.

Nightfyre · 10-04-2011, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020

I like Jones over Barkley but I don't see Cassel in Barkley. When Barkley learns to set his feet he'll be pretty good. You don't see Barkley staring in the face of the defender on a pass rush and completely ignoring everything else.

youre going to make me watch that awful video again to dispute this claim aren't you?

jd1020 · 10-04-2011, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

youre going to make me watch that awful video again to dispute this claim aren't you?

Go right ahead. He does a lot of jump throws/throws off his back foot. He just needs to work on his footwork.

MMXcalibur · 10-04-2011, 06:23 PM

This entire Suck 4 Luck campaign is depressing as shit. It's Week 5 and we're talking about the Draft already.

Okie_Apparition · 10-04-2011, 06:26 PM

When he goes to Denver, they'll follow

Chiefs Pantalones · 10-04-2011, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCtotheSB

This entire Suck 4 Luck campaign is depressing as shit. It's Week 5 and we're talking about the Draft already.

You're welcome.

Sincerely,

Clark Hunt, Scott Pioli and Todd Haley

PS. CASSEL FOR LIFE BITCHES!
Pioli

**The Bad Guy** · 10-04-2011, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCtotheSB

This entire Suck 4 Luck campaign is depressing as shit. It's Week 5 and we're talking about the Draft already.

You think that's depressing? I sit there for 3 hours and watch this clown play quarterback for this team. That's pure depression. Plus if you really want to get depressed, count how many years it's been since we've won a playoff game. Then what you can do is count on one hand how many years we had stellar QB play during that drought.

Then you'll be as depressed as the rest of us.

Setsuna · 10-04-2011, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox

I took the liberty of mapping out the schedule of each team in the Suck for Luck campaign. I included every team in the league. I simulated the season 10000 times using a probabilistic outcome of each game determined by performances to date and rigorously broke all of the ties to determine draft order. Using this information, I determined that chances of it coming down to the KC Miami game are pretty low.

Pics or it didn't happen.

Nightfyre · 10-04-2011, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox

I took the liberty of mapping out the schedule of each team in the Suck for Luck campaign. I included every team in the league. I simulated the season 10000 times using a probabilistic outcome of each game determined by performances to date and rigorously broke all of the ties to determine draft order. Using this information, I determined that chances of it coming down to the KC Miami game are pretty low.

What are the current chances we win the suck for luck race?

Marcellus · 10-04-2011, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

You're welcome.

Sincerely,

Clark Hunt, Scott Pioli and Todd Haley

PS. CASSEL FOR LIFE BITCHES!
Pioli

I am certain Cassel is not on Haley and Clark trusted the guy he gave the $$ and keys to to not **** it up.

Clark picked the highest profile big name guy out there and I am sure he wasn't cheap.

If Pioli fails, it's not because Clark didn't try to get the big fish.

If Haley fails, a lot has to do with Casshole.

The only thing I am sure of is Clark will not do the 20 year plan like his dad. He is more competitive and I don't see him chilling while the team is in suck mode.

Sucky · 10-04-2011, 08:13 PM

Yeah after reading the OP, I do think Miami probably has the best shot. Their schedule is pretty damn hard.

10-04-2011, 01:24 PM
MahiMike He's Mahomie! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Jax, FL Casino cash: $10023443	Suck for Luck comes down to Chiefs vs Dolphins By now, everyone has heard of the "Suck for Luck" campaign. Lousy teams surely to miss the playoffs may be inclined to tank the season in order to grab next year's #1 pick. That's where the consensus pick is Stanford's Andrew Luck. The QB so good that Mel Kiper's hair gets mussed up from the excitement of watching him. If you're not interested in this concept of tanking a season for the betterment of your team, you can go ahead and skip this article. For those of us fans that are fed up with our team's decades of struggles, keep reading. Right now, none of these teams seem to have embraced this concept willfully. They currently all seem to be - get this - trying to win...lol. I know, I know. Silly isn't it? Of course, this exercise is almost futile but fun nonetheless. Besides, what do fans of these teams have to look forward to anyway? I'm estimating based on a plus/minus of 2 games for each team. There's always the upset or injury that no one can account for. I took the liberty of mapping out the schedule of each team in the Suck for Luck campaign. I only included teams that for sure could use a new QB. I didn't include lousy teams that just signed their QB recently (Panthers, Jags, Vikings, etc.). Using this information, I came up with 5 main teams; Chiefs, Colts, Dolphins, Broncos and Seahawks. The 1st 4 play against each other and have pivotal matches that will determine their Champion suckage position. The wildcard team is the Seahawks. Playing in the NFC, they don't face any of the other teams. Still, playing in their woeful division is good for at least a couple games. I can't see how they won't win at least 4 games. They did make the playoffs last year and their schedule is similar to last year's. Based on this analysis, I've concluded that there could be a 4 way tie for the Championship. I could see the Chiefs, Colts, Dolphins and Broncos each winning 3 games. That would make for a VERY interesting final week. Who will have more turnovers January 1st? Chiefs or Broncos? Will the Colts lay down to division rival Jags? The Jets have been losing, so their January 1st matchup with the Dolphins is already a foregone conclusion. Assuming the Broncos have no chance vs the Bears or Patriots, their Championship game could actually come a couple weeks early vs the Vikings. Do they pre-tank? Or wait till the last game vs the Chiefs? Something else interesting about New Year's Day? The Chiefs/Broncos game is at 4:00 p.m. EST. By then, the fate of all the other teams in the Suckage Championship will be determined. Interesting indeed. So, in summary, based on tiebreaker scenarios, the Dolphins actually have the best shot. The Chiefs/Dolphins game is the "Ultimate Suck" game. Since it's in KC, I'll give the Chiefs the unfortunate win here. Since the Chiefs/Broncos figure to split, they tie. Next tie breaker is common opponent which happens to be - the Dolphins. Personally, as a Chiefs fan of over 40 years, I'd love to see the Dolphins sign Larry Czonka's son before the big game. Otherwise, I'll be doubly ticked if I hear these words next April; "With the 1st pick in the 2012 draft, King Carl Peterson selects...Andrew Luck!". Chiefs schedule (Estimated 3 wins) L - Sep 11 Bills L - Sep 18 @Lions L - Sep 25 @Chargers W - Oct 2 Vikes L? -Oct 9 @Colts (KEY GAME!) L? -Oct 23 @Raiders L? -Oct 31 Chargers W? -Nov 6 Dolphins ("Ultimate Suck" game!) W? -Nov 13 Broncos (KEY GAME!) L? -Nov 21 @Patriots L? -Nov 27 Steelers L? -Dec 4 @Bears L? -Dec 11 @Jets L? -Dec 18 Packers L? -Dec 24 Raiders L? -Jan 1 @Broncos (Championship KEY GAME!) Colts schedule (Estimated 3 wins) L - Texans L - Browns L - Steelers L - Bucs W - Chiefs (KEY GAME) W - Bengals L - Saints L - Titans L - Falcons W - Jags L - Panthers L - Patriots L - Ravens L - Titans L - Texans L - Jags (Championship KEY GAME!) Dolphins schedule (Estimated 3 wins) L - Patriots L - Texans L - Browns L - Chargers L? - Jets W? - Broncos (KEY GAME) W? - Giants L? - Chiefs ("Ultimate Suck" game!) L? - Redskins W? - Bills L? - Cowbows L? - Raiders L? - Eagles L? - Bills L? - Patriots L? - Jets (Championship KEY GAME!) Broncos schedule (Estimated 3 wins) L - Raiders W - Bengals L - Titans L - Packers L? - Chargers L? - Dolphins (KEY GAME) L? - Lions L? - Raiders L? - Chiefs (KEY GAME) L? - Jets L? - Chargers W? - Vikings L? - Bears L? - Patriots L? - Bills W? - Chiefs (Championship KEY GAME!) Seahawks schedule (Estimated 4 wins) L - 49ers L - Steelers W - cardinals L - Falcons L? - Giants W? - Browns W? - Bengals L? - Cowboys L? - Ravens W? - Rams L? - Redskins L? - Eagles L? - Rams L? - Bears L? - 49ers
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10-04-2011, 06:23 PM	#68
MMXcalibur Pessimistically optimistic. Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Denver, CO Casino cash: $1955086	This entire Suck 4 Luck campaign is depressing as shit. It's Week 5 and we're talking about the Draft already.
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10-04-2011, 06:26 PM	#69
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10-04-2011, 08:13 PM	#75
Sucky Banned Join Date: Aug 2011 Casino cash: $10004900	Yeah after reading the OP, I do think Miami probably has the best shot. Their schedule is pretty damn hard.
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