Romeo's defensive scheme has got to go...

[petegz28]

It's old, it's soft and it doesn't work anymore. Did you see the Bills getting pressure up the middle? Might that have something to do with them actually trying to get pressure instead of just "eating up blockers"?

We keep hearing it's the job of our d-line to consume blockers so the LB's can be free. Free to do what? I am a fan of the 3-4 but not this style of the 3-4. We are never going to get consistent pressure on a QB at all. Teams take Hali out of the game and their QB has all day to sit back.

Meanwhile our "free" LB's are getting toasted over the middle or just plain leaving it wide open.

[the Talking Can]

i no longer give a shit

i like the 3-4, but do whatever just find some crazy pain loving assholes and let them be crazy pain loving assholes...

[aturnis]

While the start to the season is overwhelmingly disappointing and unexpected, I think you're all overreacting.

This team began it's season much the same, actually worse, last season and recovered nicely. At least on defense, the offense had a whole world of other problems.

2011 start:
Loss to Buffalo 7-41
Loss to Detroit 3-48

Outscored 10-89 in the first two weeks. This team recovered on defense to finish as the #11 defense in the league despite their first two weeks of play, and the injury to Berry.

2012 start:
Loss to Atlanta 24-40
Loss to Buffalo 17-35

Outscored 41-75 first two weeks.

To me, this is evidence that not only does Crennel's defense come out of the preseason under prepared, but that it takes time for the players to acclimate and execute the defense properly and effectively. Something Crennel NEEDS to figure out how to do in the preseason.

I expect this team to be more competitive in the coming weeks, but I certainly wouldn't guarantee it.

[Cannibal]

I'd rather see the 4-3.

[Black Bob]

I wonder how much of the problem is that Toribio has been out? I mean the guy is at the top of the depth chart for a reason. RAC has bragged on his technique quite a bit. Are we not blitzing the MLBs because he is out. I have seen both Poe and Powe in there but I am starting to wonder is they are costing us here. They see fine in run support but we constantly switch to that two down linemen three safety formation on third down. We don't even try the standard blitzes that worked last year....

I bet the defense is better with Toribio.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by BlackBob

I wonder how much of the problem is that Toribio has been out? I mean the guy is at the top of the depth chart for a reason. RAC has bragged on his technique quite a bit. Are we not blitzing the MLBs because he is out. I have seen both Poe and Powe in there but I am starting to wonder is they are costing us here. They see fine in run support but we constantly switch to that two down linemen three safety formation on third down. We don't even try the standard blitzes that worked last year....

I bet the defense is better with Toribio.

he's a career nobody who has started 6 games in 4 years....

he's done jack shit as a Chief...the idea we are missing a scrub is hilarious

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by aturnis

While the start to the season is overwhelmingly disappointing and unexpected, I think you're all overreacting.

This team began it's season much the same, actually worse, last season and recovered nicely. At least on defense, the offense had a whole world of other problems.

2011 start:
Loss to Buffalo 7-41
Loss to Detroit 3-48

Outscored 10-89 in the first two weeks. This team recovered on defense to finish as the #11 defense in the league despite their first two weeks of play, and the injury to Berry.

2012 start:
Loss to Atlanta 24-40
Loss to Buffalo 17-35

Outscored 41-75 first two weeks.

To me, this is evidence that not only does Crennel's defense come out of the preseason under prepared, but that it takes time for the players to acclimate and execute the defense properly and effectively. Something Crennel NEEDS to figure out how to do in the preseason.

I expect this team to be more competitive in the coming weeks, but I certainly wouldn't guarantee it.

i am relieved to know that we could still be as good as last year's shitty team...

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by BlackBob

I bet the defense is better with Toribio.

Cold shit might taste "better" than warm shit but it ain't ever gonna taste like peanut butter...

[lcarus]

I was looking at the box score, and we just give up too many big plays. Stevie Johnson only had 2 receptions for 56 all day. One of them was a big 49 yard TD. Their TE Chandler only had 2 receptions for 53 yards all day. One of them was a big 43 yard catch. Fitzpatrick only had 10 completions. Spiller only ran 15 times, but had some huge plays. The big plays are just murdering us.

[Red Beans]

Originally Posted by lcarus

I was looking at the box score, and we just give up too many big plays. Stevie Johnson only had 2 receptions for 56 all day. One of them was a big 49 yard TD. Their TE Chandler only had 2 receptions for 53 yards all day. One of them was a big 43 yard catch. Fitzpatrick only had 10 completions. Spiller only ran 15 times, but had some huge plays. The big plays are just murdering us.

I agree. That big play yardage is an indication of a breakdown in scheme, which is in all reality, a symptom of poor coaching. This team fairly reeks of Herm. I was all for RAC, but color me an idiot. The idea that a head coach should be calling all the plays on offense or defense, is simply a bad idea, but at this point I'm not sure that would make a difference...

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by lcarus

I was looking at the box score, and we just give up too many big plays. Stevie Johnson only had 2 receptions for 56 all day. One of them was a big 49 yard TD. Their TE Chandler only had 2 receptions for 53 yards all day. One of them was a big 43 yard catch. Fitzpatrick only had 10 completions. Spiller only ran 15 times, but had some huge plays. The big plays are just murdering us.

The Chiefs have led the league in big plays given up several times in the last 10 years.

[MahiMike]

Stopping the run is as antiquated as the running backs are.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Whatever they are doing is an absolute train wreck. Doesn't look like what they were running in the 2nd half of the year last year when they were successful.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by BlackBob

I bet the defense is better with Toribio.

How?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by BlackBob

I wonder how much of the problem is that Toribio has been out? I mean the guy is at the top of the depth chart for a reason. RAC has bragged on his technique quite a bit. Are we not blitzing the MLBs because he is out. I have seen both Poe and Powe in there but I am starting to wonder is they are costing us here. They see fine in run support but we constantly switch to that two down linemen three safety formation on third down. We don't even try the standard blitzes that worked last year....

I bet the defense is better with Toribio.

They are absolutely hurting us. I like the Poe pick. But he is unbelievably raw for the position right now, and it's like expecting to have a productive offense with Palko as your QB. It's hard to blitz when the middle of your line is so leaky. What I've noticed is that the cutback lanes in the interior or ginormous. I think DJ and Berry have looked lost at times, but that might also be because the poor NT play is causing them to do too much.

But it doesn't change the fact that they're playing soft, over thinking, and playing without any focus. That's coaching.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Dave

How?

I don't usually agree with the guy, but he's right. We all know how important the nose tackle position is. And Poe is getting manhandled, which shouldn't surprise anyone. It's common sense that when you upgrade at the most important position on that side of the ball, you're going to see major defensive improvements.