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View Poll Results: Did you seek father's permission/blessing?
Yes, it is a tradition I wanted to keep 42 27.10%
Yes, it is a tradition I knew spouse's family wanted to keep 19 12.26%
No 78 50.32%
I've never proposed 16 10.32%
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Old 01-16-2013, 11:51 AM   #1
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That's a good point. The tradition legally stems from the Tort of Seduction. A father could sue in civil court the person who married/took away the daughter, because the daughter (and wife and minor-sons) were basically property.

Now it's morphed into a show of respect, but it doesn't seem that genuinely respectful or necessary to me.
interesting, I did not know that first part
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Old 01-16-2013, 11:56 AM   #2
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interesting, I did not know that first part
I didn't either, until yesterday. I'd never even heard of the Tort of Seduction until then. It wasn't until 1874 that a state (Iowa) allowed a woman to sue her master on her own behalf. Her master (employer) had molested or raped her.
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Old 01-16-2013, 11:38 AM   #3
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if you have a daughter do you expect your future son in law to ask you?
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Old 01-16-2013, 11:42 AM   #4
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if you have a daughter do you expect your future son in law to ask you?
I don't have a daughter right now, so my answer is a bit premature, but no, I wouldn't. I would expect my daughter to have the right goals and values in her life to make her own decision that would align with her happiness. And that's what I would be concerned about.
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Old 01-16-2013, 11:49 AM   #5
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I don't have a daughter right now, so my answer is a bit premature, but no, I wouldn't. I would expect my daughter to have the right goals and values in her life to make her own decision that would align with her happiness. And that's what I would be concerned about.
You have a long time to have your mind change. Growing up and having kids will do that to you. Never say never.
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:00 PM   #6
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You have a long time to have your mind change. Growing up and having kids will do that to you. Never say never.
You have time to change your mind about it, too.
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Old 01-16-2013, 11:54 AM   #7
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if you have a daughter do you expect your future son in law to ask you?
I have three daughters and I haven't decided yet.
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Old 01-16-2013, 11:58 AM   #8
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I have three daughters and I haven't decided yet.
I have two and I guess it depends on the situation. Right now I would say I expect them to ask me for my blessing not for my permission
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I have two and I guess it depends on the situation. Right now I would say I expect them to ask me for my blessing not for my permission
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Old 01-16-2013, 11:49 AM   #10
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"I'm seeking your blessing for the marriage. I'm also seeking $10,000. Weddings aren't free, newdad." That's the order of the course.
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Old 01-16-2013, 11:49 AM   #11
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"Generally it is a nice gesture, assuming your sweetheart is close with her parents and that they are relatively traditional. If they are non-traditional, or you are worried they (or she) might see it as a sexist gesture, simply be careful about the way you phrase it. Rather than asking for their permission, ask for their blessing. Situations where you shouldn't ask include if she is estranged from her parents, if she is an older bride, or if you think her parents will spoil the surprise of your proposal. "

I think we should just club them over the head drag them back to our places and they should be ours again like in the old days...
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Old 01-16-2013, 11:50 AM   #12
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I did because it's the respectable thing to do, and the last thing you want when you are going to spend the rest of your life with a woman, is for her father to think you don't respect him. I expect the same when my daughter is proposed to .
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Old 01-16-2013, 11:51 AM   #13
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I didn't, and I don't regret it at all. It didn't feel appropriate at the time. We had been together for 5+ years and I think that us getting married was a bit of a foregone conclusion.
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Dad was already dead and mom loved me so, no worries on the permission front.
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I think it's a sign of respect that you love his daughter, and wnt to spend your life together with her. and in some ways, it's also asking/implying that you want to be a part of their family as well. At least, that's the way I read the Italian way.

I've since learned that her family is WAY big on family/respect. There are just some things that are pretty much a slap in the face if they were not done. They'll do anything for anyone in their family at a drop of a hat - immediate family, cousins, aunts etc.

I was married when I was 26 and she was 27. I asked both her mom and step-dad, as well as her dad.
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