Don Banks from SI on Chiefs Coaching/GM

[DaWolf]

Originally Posted by jspchief

How can they keep Pioli? They aren't going to bring in a new HC for a GM with 1 year left under contract. So they extend Pioli after what he's done here?

The timing will never be better. Otherwise you just start a carousel of coaches blaming GMs and GMs blaming coaches.

The only conceivable way Pioli stays is if the rumors are true about him being extended last off season.

To us, it is a no brainer. To Hunt, who knows. Pioli may sell him that they have a ton of talent on the team, and all they really need to do is to get the QB and get a new coaching staff in here with a fresh outlook on things. Also he may try to sell Hunt that they have done a poor job in free agency because the Pro Personnel guy hasn't been doing a great job of identifying talent and they need a new person in that position.

So at the end of the day, if Pioli is able to convince Hunt that the real changes that need to be made are on the personnel staff and on the coaching staff, and that the top offseason priority would be to find that franchise QB and also spend that cap money on key free agents, he might be able to convince Hunt to keep him around.

I highly doubt it happens, and fully expect a cleaning of the house, but at this point, who knows...

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by DaWolf

To us, it is a no brainer. To Hunt, who knows.

So many times we're heard/read/said that Hunt "is a businessman, first and foremost."

At this point, we should all hope this is true because it makes zero business sense to retain Suckass Scott. The money Hunt would make by firing him is far greater than what he'd make if Pioli returns.

Ironically, Pioli and Cassel are figuratively tied to each other at the end, too; both are cheaper to cut than to keep.

[Bewbies]

Dorsey please. Team him with Chip Kelly, draft Geno Smith. Pregnancy rate among Chiefs fans reaches baby boomer status.

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by DaWolf

To us, it is a no brainer. To Hunt, who knows. Pioli may sell him that they have a ton of talent on the team, and all they really need to do is to get the QB and get a new coaching staff in here with a fresh outlook on things. Also he may try to sell Hunt that they have done a poor job in free agency because the Pro Personnel guy hasn't been doing a great job of identifying talent and they need a new person in that position.

So at the end of the day, if Pioli is able to convince Hunt that the real changes that need to be made are on the personnel staff and on the coaching staff, and that the top offseason priority would be to find that franchise QB and also spend that cap money on key free agents, he might be able to convince Hunt to keep him around.

I highly doubt it happens, and fully expect a cleaning of the house, but at this point, who knows...

Sure, but who's fault is it we need a different HC (third in 5 years)? Who built the scouting department?

Pioli can point fingers at others to blame, but those guys are in place because of Pioli. It might be different if Hunt had to weigh Pioli's successes versus his failures, but there really aren't enough successes to even make a debate of it.

[DaWolf]

Originally Posted by jspchief

Sure, but who's fault is it we need a different HC (third in 5 years)? Who built the scouting department?

Pioli can point fingers at others to blame, but those guys are in place because of Pioli. It might be different if Hunt had to weigh Pioli's successes versus his failures, but there really aren't enough successes to even make a debate of it.

This decision will essentially let us know what we have in Hunt. Either he is a bottom-line type guy who listens to his constituents, or he is a sentimental and loyal fellow like his dad who can overlook failure to a point in order to give a person he likes and respects another shot to correct their errors. If it is the latter, we are in trouble...

[crossbow]

Is there any way at all that we can get the scouts that Herm used, who got us guys like Jamaal Charles and Brandon Flowers in the third round?

[DeezNutz]

Flowers in the second.

[SAUTO]

Flowers was a 2
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WE LOVE ARIANS

[Rain Man]

I'm not an expert about who to bring in, but I do know one thing. We darn well need to bring in some quarterback guru who is proven at developing quarterbacks.

[Hammock Parties]

lol @ Laz being a McCluster fan.

[ROYC75]

I love this place.

CP basically goes nuts Clark hires Pioli, the majority of the FB world says, Good or Great Hire!

Pioli hires Todd Haley,CP basically goes nuts, the majority of the FB world says, Good or a Great hire. Up and coming new OC, great open offensive mind with SB experience.

Pioli gets Matt Cassel,many CP and Chiefs fans goes nuts about a QB that knows the Patriot Way.Many CP and Chief fans revolt, cuss, kick and scream because of Cassel's 1 year success and millions of dollars.

CP and Chiefs fans goes nuts over Haley & Pioli feuds,gum & candy wrappers, wire taps, etc .... Chiefs fans embarrassed by Pioli & Todd, blames Todd.

Kent Bab exposes Pioli,long after Whitlock feuds with Pioli ... CP & Chief fans wake up. Pioli is a dictator!

Now in the wake of Pioli may stay as long as he hires a new HC and gets a new ( finally a 1st rd ) QB ?

Chiefs fans are their own worst enemy when it comes to wanting something. It's damn easy to just accept and go with the flow and bitch along the way.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by ROYC75

I love this place.

CP basically goes nuts Clark hires Pioli, the majority of the FB world says, Good or Great Hire!

Pioli hires Todd Haley,CP basically goes nuts, the majority of the FB world says, Good or a Great hire. Up and coming new OC, great open offensive mind with SB experience.

Pioli gets Matt Cassel,many CP and Chiefs fans goes nuts about a QB that knows the Patriot Way.Many CP and Chief fans revolt, cuss, kick and scream because of Cassel's 1 year success and millions of dollars.

CP and Chiefs fans goes nuts over Haley & Pioli feuds,gum & candy wrappers, wire taps, etc .... Chiefs fans embarrassed by Pioli & Todd, blames Todd.

Kent Bab exposes Pioli,long after Whitlock feuds with Pioli ... CP & Chief fans wake up. Pioli is a dictator!

Now in the wake of Pioli may stay as long as he hires a new HC and gets a new ( finally a 1st rd ) QB ?

Chiefs fans are their own worst enemy when it comes to wanting something. It's damn easy to just accept and go with the flow and bitch along the way.

Who's said Pioli could stay?

[notorious]

Originally Posted by aturnis

Who's said Pioli could stay?

This.

I have yet to see one person say that.

[007]

Originally Posted by ROYC75

I love this place.

CP basically goes nuts Clark hires Pioli, the majority of the FB world says, Good or Great Hire!

Pioli hires Todd Haley,CP basically goes nuts, the majority of the FB world says, Good or a Great hire. Up and coming new OC, great open offensive mind with SB experience.

Pioli gets Matt Cassel,many CP and Chiefs fans goes nuts about a QB that knows the Patriot Way.Many CP and Chief fans revolt, cuss, kick and scream because of Cassel's 1 year success and millions of dollars.

CP and Chiefs fans goes nuts over Haley & Pioli feuds,gum & candy wrappers, wire taps, etc .... Chiefs fans embarrassed by Pioli & Todd, blames Todd.

Kent Bab exposes Pioli,long after Whitlock feuds with Pioli ... CP & Chief fans wake up. Pioli is a dictator!

Now in the wake of Pioli may stay as long as he hires a new HC and gets a new ( finally a 1st rd ) QB ?

Chiefs fans are their own worst enemy when it comes to wanting something. It's damn easy to just accept and go with the flow and bitch along the way.

Most wanted nothing to do with Cassel and a fairly good percentage also didn't like the Haley hire. Not sure where you are getting that MOST of CP went NUTS over those two unless you meant we went nuts with hate over it.