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A. Employer makes job offer to college student, student starts work, employer fires student within 90 days for poor job performance. 0 0%
B. Employer makes job offer to college student, student starts work, student quits within 90 days after finding 'better' job. 0 0%
C. Employer makes job offer to college student, student starts work, employer lays off student within 90 days due to slow business. 3 21.43%
D. Employer makes job offer to college student, student accepts job, employer rescinds offer before start date because a stronger candidate came available by pure happenstance 9 64.29%
E. Employer makes job offer to college student, student accepts job, employer continues to interview candidates for that position, employer rescinds offer before start date because a stronger candidate was located. 11 78.57%
F. Employer makes job offer to college student, student accepts job, employer rescinds offer before start date due to slow business. 4 28.57%
G. Employer makes job offer to college student, student accepts job, student reneges on offer before start date because another 'better' job offer arrived by pure happenstance. 3 21.43%
H. Employer makes job offer to college student, student accepts job, student continues to actively interview for other jobs, student reneges on offer before start date because another 'better' job offer was received. 9 64.29%
I. Employer makes job offer to college student, student accepts job, student reneges on offer after beginning pre-job paid training program because another 'better' job offer arrived by pure happenstance. 7 50.00%
J. Employer makes job offer to college student, student accepts job, student continues to actively interview for other jobs, student reneges on offer after beginning pre-job paid training program because another 'better' job offer was received. 11 78.57%
None of these represent unethical or dishonorable behavior. 1 7.14%
It depends on which one is me. 1 7.14%
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Old 05-02-2005, 08:49 PM  
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Ethics and Honor - A Rain Man Rant

Gol'dang it, I'm ticked off.

We've implemented a very challenging and time consuming process to hire people in my firm, in an effort to get the people who are most likely to be successful. We implemented it last year, and it took us three months to find a strong candidate for a relatively quantitative position. It was a college student who was supposed to graduate in May, and we made her the offer in January, with the agreement that she would start part time in January and then go full time in May.

Well, she's been working for us part time for four months, and was supposed to start full time two weeks from today. So what does she do today? She turns in her two-week notice. Her two-week notice!

Now, if the job wasn't a fit, that's fine. But it was. She was doing good work for us, we all liked her, and she seemed to be genuinely interested in the work. She had a great future here. But get this: It turns out that she continued interviewing for jobs after she accepted our job offer, and she actually accepted a second job offer AFTER SHE WAS WORKING AT MY COMPANY. She then strung my firm along for who knows how long, letting us think that she was keeping her commitment to start full time after graduation, while knowing full well that she was going to screw us over on short notice. Now we're having a busy month, and the person that I've been working my schedule around to accommodate a part-time schedule is freaking quitting, RIGHT WHEN SHE HAD COMMITTED TO STEP UP.

It ticks me off for about a thousand reasons. Dang it. What is wrong with people today? If someone treats you well, don't slam their fingers in the car door.

Stupid people. I hate people. From here on out, I'm just hiring cats.
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Old 05-02-2005, 10:05 PM   #76
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We actually offer all of this except the one-hour lunch. We only offer 45 minutes. Thank you for your interest. NEXT!
All right, I'll take a half hour lunch if I can have my own massage therapist working around the clock.
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Old 05-02-2005, 10:06 PM   #77
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So you think that'll be more effective than my original plan of just hitting her, Falling Alice?

Hmm. Maybe you have a point...
Ohhhh yeeeeaaah. Psychological terror is much, much more destabilizing than the threat of mere physical violence. It's creepier. And it leaves one with complex messages that are harder to decode.

Much, much more effective.

Plus you'll avoid a felony charge.
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Old 05-02-2005, 10:06 PM   #78
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I'm really a whole lot smarter than any of these other candidtaes.

I just don't have any way of proving it.

You'll just have to take my word for it.

Oh, and what is this math thing you keep talking about? Is that like cyphering?

The past 20 posts have been an eerily accurate reflection of the actual hiring process.
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Old 05-02-2005, 10:06 PM   #79
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Hey gochiefs? You busy Saturday night?

I'm available whenever you are.

I WIN!!!! I WIN!! BINGO!! I GOT BINGO!!
I hate to be so cruel to someone who gave me such a glowing compliment a mere few posts back, but his wording was "whoever does the worst" not "whoever does it first". If your avatar is a self portrait, than I think this game is still wide open.



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Old 05-02-2005, 10:09 PM   #80
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Ohhhh yeeeeaaah. Psychological terror is much, much more destabilizing than the threat of mere physical violence. It's creepier. And it leaves one with complex messages that are harder to decode.

Much, much more effective.

Plus you'll avoid a felony charge.

I like this.

She's going to remain on the job for a bit. Maybe at some point when she's in her office I can brick her in, like The Cask of Amontillado. That'd creep her out.
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Old 05-02-2005, 10:10 PM   #81
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I hate to be so cruel to someone who gave me such a glowing compliment a mere few posts back, but his wording was "whoever does the worst" not "whoever does it first". If your avatar is a self portrait, than I think this game is still wide open.



My apologies, but its a dog eat dog world.
Hey...I'm a lot older than I look in that picture. I'm still spry. I moisturize daily. And I can cook possum.

Not only that, but I'd be so grateful for any form of male attention that I'd be willing to... well you know.

He could do a lot worse. And if things have come to having his friends try to score chicks on the internet for him, I'll bet he has.
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I like this.

She's going to remain on the job for a bit. Maybe at some point when she's in her office I can brick her in, like The Cask of Amontillado. That'd creep her out.


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Hey...I'm a lot older than I look in that picture. I'm still spry. I moisturize daily. And I can cook possum.

Not only that, but I'd be so grateful for any form of male attention that I'd be willing to... well you know.

He could do a lot worse. And if things have come to having his friends try to score chicks on the internet for him, I'll bet he has.
oh, well if you moisturize daily...

hmm

I give up, and in that case I have to go to bed since it looks like I'm going to have to keep my day job, which starts in about 7 hours.

Good night all.
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My guess right now is that any date with a live human will win this contest.

Hey, I'm a live human.

The prospect of working for Kevin is enticing (btw, my current boss is named Kevin, does that give me bonus points?)

but throwing on the scale of going on a date with Gochiefs (not that I don't like the guy) I think I'm going to have to let FallingAlice steal th show. After she doesn't make it through the date, I plan to be back in episode two!
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[Donald Trump voice] Okay, my job here is to pick a new employee. It looks like I've got a lot of good candidates here, so we'll have a competition. Your first assignment: get a date for gochiefs. Whoever does worst gets fired from the competition. You've got 8 hours. On your mark, get set, go! [/Trump]
He lives close to Mexico. I've used petty cash to wire a money order to a "manager of girls" across the boarder. I've secured transportation of the "big dayte" via a coyote who was bringing a van of migrant Potato farmers to Albequerque to catch a bus. Because the cross boarder transaction was not completed with official company resources, there will be no taxes assessed to my employer. I have however, made arrangements for a false receipt for vehicle repair with Fat Vinny down on 3rd and Maple. Tax deduction.

The Gal isn't much to look at I hear, and has retired as a trainer for some form of entertainment that utilizes beasts of burden. She may have some social diseases, but I didn't see anything saying that was a violation. She as a Deloris that is 3" long, according to her manager, so Gochiefs should be able to believe she's a man, and consumate the relationship.

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Old 05-02-2005, 10:45 PM   #90
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see Rainman.......cheefs is obviously a slacker!

When I take on a task...its obvious that I dominate him. Christ Boss, he's Canadian now. He'd probably expect to be paid in Beaver Pelts and McKenzie brothers movies.

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