Are you a FF baller or a homer?

[Logical]

If you say you are taking LJ count yourself as a homer.

If you say Shawn Alexander then count yourself as a baller

If you are in a league with QBs that get 6 then you have other options.

This could all change if Roaf comes back so for now assume Roaf is not coming back.

[Logical]

Originally Posted by Valiant

You have 5 backup second tier RB's on your team and see how many trade offers you get.. the only people left to pick up would be backups...

Three years ago I had Priest, LT, Shaun Alexander, Deuce McAllister and Rudi Johnson and no one wanted to make a trade. Remember these are 8 team leagues not a 12 team league.

[greg63]

Roaf ain't comin back, and I freely admit to my homerism.

[noa]

Originally Posted by Logical

Three years ago I had Priest, LT, Shaun Alexander, Deuce McAllister and Rudi Johnson and no one wanted to make a trade. Remember these are 8 team leagues not a 12 team league.

You had those guys on the same team in the same year? Do you play in a league with a bunch of 10 year old reeruned kids?

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by Logical

No his receptions will give him killer numbers in our league if he stays healthy.

I stand by my statement and will back it up with some stats.

I'm not sure what your exact scoring system is, but from what you've posted so far I'm assuming:

1 point for every 15 yds rushing
6 pts for rushing TD
1 point for 15 yds receiving? (not sure about this one)
6 pts for receiving TD
1 point per reception

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but based on that:

Westbrook 2004: 812 yds rushing, 3 rushing TDs, 61 receptions, 703 receiving yards, 4 receiving TDs = 204 fantasy points

Westbrook 2005: 617 yds rushing, 3 rushing TDs, 73 receptions, 616 receiving yards, 6 receiving TDs = 209 fantasy points

Johnson 2005: 1750 yds rushing, 20 rushing TDs, 33 receptions, 343 receiving yards, 1 receiving TDs = 298 fantasy points

And Johnson accumulated the majority of his stats in 7 games.

Like I said, your post was just f***ing dumb, plain and simple.

[Logical]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

I stand by my statement and will back it up with some stats.

I'm not sure what your exact scoring system is, but from what you've posted so far I'm assuming:

1 point for every 15 yds rushing
6 pts for rushing TD
1 point for 15 yds receiving? (not sure about this one)
6 pts for receiving TD
1 point per reception

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but based on that:

Westbrook 2004: 812 yds rushing, 3 rushing TDs, 61 receptions, 703 receiving yards, 4 receiving TDs = 204 fantasy points

Westbrook 2005: 617 yds rushing, 3 rushing TDs, 73 receptions, 616 receiving yards, 6 receiving TDs = 209 fantasy points

Johnson 2005: 1750 yds rushing, 20 rushing TDs, 33 receptions, 343 receiving yards, 1 receiving TDs = 298 fantasy points

And Johnson accumulated the majority of his stats in 7 games.

Like I said, your post was just f***ing dumb, plain and simple.

Two things you are ignoring my stay healthy statement something I will be the first to admit he has not been able to do. 2nd I am expect a monster drop off for LJ without Roaf and Welbourn and I have made that the premise of all my statements. I am not suggesting what people should do in their leagues I am telling you what is likely to happen in our league. LJ will go betweeen 5th and 8th I would almost best on it if Roaf does not come back.

[Logical]

Originally Posted by Logical

Two things you are ignoring my stay healthy statement something I will be the first to admit he has not been able to do. 2nd I am expect a monster drop off for LJ without Roaf and Welbourn and I have made that the premise of all my statements. I am not suggesting what people should do in their leagues I am telling you what is likely to happen in our league. LJ will go betweeen 5th and 8th I would almost best on it if Roaf does not come back.

Here is what I expect from LJ given the current circumstances 1300 rushing, 30 reception 225 receiving and 15 total TD as our offense drops to about 15th in the league.

PS I only expect him to be healthy for 12 games and then he will be partially healthy for two others.

[noa]

Originally Posted by Logical

Here is what I expect from LJ given the current circumstances 1300 rushing, 30 reception 225 receiving and 15 total TD as our offense drops to about 15th in the league.

PS I only expect him to be healthy for 12 games and then he will be partially healthy for two others.

How can you possibly think he'll only have 15 TDs all year?! He'll probably have 15 TDs in the first game. Are you seriously going to try to say that LJ is going to have less than a TD per game? That's insane. LJ had 21 TDs last year and Priest had 7, so if he had been the lone starter, he likely would have had 25 + TDs. Why on earth would he drop off by 10 TDs. I understand skepticism, but this takes it to a whole new level. If you think he's going to get injured, why don't you think the same thing about LT, Shaun, or anyone else ranked highly in your bizzare fantasy universe?

[Logical]

Originally Posted by noa949

How can you possibly think he'll only have 15 TDs all year?! He'll probably have 15 TDs in the first game. Are you seriously going to try to say that LJ is going to have less than a TD per game? That's insane. LJ had 21 TDs last year and Priest had 7, so if he had been the lone starter, he likely would have had 25 + TDs. Why on earth would he drop off by 10 TDs. I understand skepticism, but this takes it to a whole new level. If you think he's going to get injured, why don't you think the same thing about LT, Shaun, or anyone else ranked highly in your bizzare fantasy universe?

No I said he would only be healthy for 12 games and partially healthy for 2 others that is 14 games so 15 TDs is an average of just over 1 TD per game.

[noa]

Originally Posted by Logical

No I said he would only be healthy for 12 games and partially healthy for 2 others that is 14 games so 15 TDs is an average of just over 1 TD per game.

First of all, what reason do you have to think LJ is going to get inured? Every other team in the NFL manages to play without Willie Roaf at LT and that doesn't guarantee their starting RB gets injured. Furthermore, LJ supposedly had a great offseason and is great shape. You can only plan on a player getting injured if they have a history of injury (like Fred Taylor). Otherwise, you have to assume he's going to be healthy for fantasy purposes.
Second of all, even if LJ only plays 12 games healthy and 2 injured, he'll still score more than 15 TDs. That's as good as money in the bank.

[Logical]

Originally Posted by noa949

First of all, what reason do you have to think LJ is going to get inured? Every other team in the NFL manages to play without Willie Roaf at LT and that doesn't guarantee their starting RB gets injured. Furthermore, LJ supposedly had a great offseason and is great shape. You can only plan on a player getting injured if they have a history of injury (like Fred Taylor). Otherwise, you have to assume he's going to be healthy for fantasy purposes.
Second of all, even if LJ only plays 12 games healthy and 2 injured, he'll still score more than 15 TDs. That's as good as money in the bank.

Simple basically he average almost 31 touches per game and Herm wants to up it by 10 per game, do that and he will be on pace to average a record 500+ touches, no running back will stand up to that in the NFL and stay healthy, just won't happen.

[noa]

Originally Posted by Logical

Simple basically he average almost 31 touches per game and Herm wants to up it by 10 per game, do that and he will be on pace to average a record 500+ touches, no running back will stand up to that in the NFL and stay healthy, just won't happen.

The coaches can ease up on their expectations if its starting to wear down LJ. I guarantee you he scores more than 15 TDs this year. Your response has:



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[Logical]

Originally Posted by noa949

The coaches can ease up on their expectations if its starting to wear down LJ. I guarantee you he scores more than 15 TDs this year. Your response has:



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Cute but I am sure I am going to be closer to correct than you. I will be shocked if he gets more than 20 and that is if he stays healthy. I think you forget just how conservative this offense is going to become.

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[Brock]

Originally Posted by Logical

Cute but I am sure I am going to be closer to correct than you. I will be shocked if he gets more than 20 and that is if he stays healthy. I think you forget just how conservative this offense is going to become.

How conservative is it "going to become" Nostradamus?

[rad]

Originally Posted by Logical

Simple basically he average almost 31 touches per game and Herm wants to up it by 10 per game, do that and he will be on pace to average a record 500+ touches, no running back will stand up to that in the NFL and stay healthy, just won't happen.

Herm said we'll run more, he didn't say LJ is going to get more carries. We don't have any other RB's other than LJ? Use your head, man.