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Old 12-21-2006, 10:05 PM  
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Old 12-22-2006, 12:15 AM   #76
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Speaking of which, the 2006 draft was the return of 1983. These three kids are going to be special...
are GOING to be? hell, young and leinart already are... and cutler (ugh) definately has the skills to be as good, if not better, than both of em'

congrats on having a QB... as a chiefs fan, I've never seen a hall of fame QB lead my team (eh, other than the two years of montana, which barely even counts, as I was too young to remember)

I may give you bronco fans sh*t about the cheating and cut blocking, but honestly, I'd tolerate either of those if the chiefs were to win a super bowl... it sucks being the cubs of the NFL

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Old 12-22-2006, 12:29 AM   #77
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Old 12-22-2006, 12:39 AM   #78
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Old 12-22-2006, 12:53 AM   #79
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And you must have missed that he was being coached by a Marty Schottenheimer clone and managed to raise his game anyway, not to mention the playoff wins against teams such as the Warren Moon-led Houston Oilers, Chuck Noll-led Pittsburgh Steelers, Bill Cowher-led Pittsburgh Steelers, Bill Parcells led New York Jets, Tom Coughlin-led Jacksonville Jaguars, Dan Marino-led Miami Dolphins... And oh yeah, the Brett Favre-led Green Bay Packers.
He didn't beat Coughlin, Favre, or Cowher until he had Terrell Davis and shucked his "marty clone", and got his ass handed to him three times in the SB. Stop with the half-truths.
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Old 12-22-2006, 12:58 AM   #80
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He didn't beat Coughlin, Favre, or Cowher until he had Terrell Davis and shucked his "marty clone", and got his ass handed to him three times in the SB. Stop with the half-truths.

Hardly half truths. There is no doubt that our Hall of Fame bound runningback had a lot to do with Elway's Superbowl success. But the presence of Terrell Davis doesn't in any way diminish the accomplishments of Elway, despite what the Elway-haters would want us all to believe.

Elway was going to take whatever team he played for to the Superbowl multiple times, whoever that team was. Whether that team was good enough to win it depended on the quality of the team. Unfortunately, the quality of the early teams just wasn't there.
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Old 12-22-2006, 01:00 AM   #81
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Hardly half truths. There is no doubt that our Hall of Fame bound runningback had a lot to do with Elway's Superbowl success. But the presence of Terrell Davis doesn't in any way diminish the accomplishments of Elway, despite what the Elway-haters would want us all to believe.

Elway was going to take whatever team he played for to the Superbowl multiple times, whoever that team was. Whether that team was good enough to win it depended on the quality of the team. Unfortunately, the quality of the early teams just wasn't there.


I'd like to see Elway take some of those 1980's Bucs, Packers, Seahawks, Chiefs, Cardinals, to the Super Bowl....
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Old 12-22-2006, 01:04 AM   #82
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I'd like to see Elway take some of those 1980's Bucs, Packers, Seahawks, Chiefs, Cardinals, to the Super Bowl....

I truly believe he would have done it. He made everyone around him that much better because no matter what the game situation, they believed. Faith goes a long ways in this game.

It's this reason I don't consider Favre a top 5 quarterback. He never elevated a mediocre team to anything special. Nor Marino.

Montana and Elway both did.
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Old 12-22-2006, 01:06 AM   #83
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I truly believe he would have done it. He made everyone around him that much better because no matter what the game situation, they believed. Faith goes a long ways in this game.
Since when did this guy start running the Mane?

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Let me add the footnote to that argument, that I think that Marino was the best pure passer that the game has ever seen. But with that, let me add that there's a difference between being a mere passer and being a quarterback.
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Old 12-22-2006, 01:10 AM   #85
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Elway and Montana are probably the best 2 i'd agree with that as well.
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Elway and Montana are probably the best 2 i'd agree with that as well.
I'd have Montana 1, Elway 2, and Todd Blackledge 8914.
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I'd have Montana 1, Elway 2, and Todd Blackledge 8914.
agreed, im tipsy so i was going by the alphabet to put in order.
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You really are a freakin' moron.
Must have fogotten Montana had the benefit of the best defense in the NFL, best WR ever, huge O-line, and a devasting Special teams.

are you ever going to realize that JOE was the reason?
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