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View Poll Results: Before reading this, what point spread would you have guessed?
Virtuous Chiefs by 7+ 8 5.88%
Virtuous Chiefs by 5 to 6.5 2 1.47%
Virtuous Chiefs by 3 to 4.5 13 9.56%
Virtuous Chiefs by 0.5 to 2.5 1 0.74%
Push 4 2.94%
Cheating Broncos by 0.5 to 2.5 1 0.74%
Cheating Broncos by 3 to 4.5 26 19.12%
Cheating Broncos by 5 to 6.5 29 21.32%
Cheating Broncos by 7+ 49 36.03%
I don't deal with math and probabilities. I hire people for that. 3 2.21%
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Old 11-13-2013, 12:54 PM  
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Wow. Denver is an 8.5 point favorite?
Maybe it's discussed in a thread somewhere, but I didn't see it and I like the limelight of having a thread with my name on it.

I figured the Broncos would be favored, but I would have expected 5 points or so. Not 8.5. They obviously know something about the officiating that's not public.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/1...read-favorites

The Denver Broncos will open Sunday Night Football against the Chiefs in Week 11 as an 8.5-point favorite, according to pregame.com.


It's at 8 and 9.5 in other places.

One big question that weighs into this is the health of Peyton Manning. Early signs are that he's going to be fine but an MRI is coming. That is the biggest thing remaining that could affect the line.

Last week I asked the guys over at Odds Shark what the line on the Chiefs-Broncos game would be. The official line wasn't up yet but our guy there polled two oddsmakers and they both said -6.5 for the Broncos. The difference between -6.5 and -8.5 is huge considering a lot of games end in a seven point difference. The Chargers lost to the Broncos by eight points last Sunday so KC would have to perform that well to have a shot at covering.

But we don't really care about covering. We care about the Chiefs winning. Their 9-0 record speaks for itself but oddsmakers clearly feel the Broncos are the better team here. Not that this should surprise anyone. We've known all along that folks think the Broncos are better. On Sunday night, we finally get to put this question to rest.
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Old 11-13-2013, 02:36 PM   #76
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Old 11-13-2013, 02:37 PM   #77
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You can't honestly think that the game in Buffalo should have ended in a win if the Bills didn't hand the game to us?
BUF really screwed the pooch when they threw that INT near the endzone that was run back, that could have been a huge game changer at that point with a nice double digit lead.
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Old 11-13-2013, 02:37 PM   #78
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You can't honestly think that the game in Buffalo should have ended in a win if the Bills didn't hand the game to us?
Handed the game to us? What?
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Old 11-13-2013, 02:39 PM   #79
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You can't honestly think that the game in Buffalo should have ended in a win if the Bills didn't hand the game to us?
In a game with average at best offenses, the team that makes the most mistakes loses.
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It's been a strong run, I just don't know that you can expect that to hold .. at some point they have to win convincingly on the road especially because of the offense.
By the same token, Denver is eventually going to have to beat somebody with a real defense. The one time they got smacked in the mouth, they lost.

After game 3, it was "unsustainable".
After game 5, it was "unsustainable".
After game 7, it was "unsustainable".

Here we are at 9-0 and people want to continue to say it's unsustainable. Sorry but I'm gonna have to see some proof to the contrary.
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It's been a strong run, I just don't know that you can expect that to hold .. at some point they have to win convincingly on the road especially because of the offense.
What?

Win "convincingly"?

When is winning on the road not good enough?
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By the same token, Denver is eventually going to have to beat somebody with a real defense. The one time they got smacked in the mouth, they lost.

After game 3, it was "unsustainable".
After game 5, it was "unsustainable".
After game 7, it was "unsustainable".

Here we are at 9-0 and people want to continue to say it's unsustainable. Sorry but I'm gonna have to see some proof to the contrary.
We'll see how it all plays out.

And, yes - Denver played a tough IND defense, but they still had more yards - it was the turnovers and the inability of the defense to stop their offense early. PM still had nearly 400 yds passing.
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The NWS at game time is forecasting a temperature of 30 degrees, NW wind of 10 mph, 21% chance of precipitation, and 100% chance of Mayock splooging his pants over Manning.
It's not on Thursday night...
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What?

Win "convincingly"?

When is winning on the road not good enough?
This.

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What?

Win "convincingly"?

When is winning on the road not good enough?
Never mind, there's absolutely nothing that would concern me as a KC fan.
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We'll see how it all plays out.

And, yes - Denver played a tough IND defense, but they still had more yards - it was the turnovers and the inability of the defense to stop their offense early. PM still had nearly 400 yds passing.
Turnovers are INFINITELY more important than yards in determining the outcome of a game.

I don't expect the Chiefs to shut down Manning but I do expect them to force turnovers.
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Never mind, there's absolutely nothing that would concern me as a KC fan.
Concern? There's always "concern" playing a division rival for potential home field advantage in the playoffs.

But past road victories have no bearing on Sunday night's game.
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