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02-21-2011, 03:30 PM | #916 |
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Xoom launching without Flash. Hmm, I wonder why.
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02-21-2011, 04:28 PM | #917 |
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because Motorola is pushing the Xoom out the door before Honeycomb is ready for primetime...
Flash 10.1 works AMAZINGLY well on devices like the EVO running Froyo or Gingerbread... Google and Adobe are doing the right thing and compiling Flash 10.2 for honeycomb... it will likely be ready in a month or two. This has NOTHING to do with your hard on for bashing Flash.. it has to do with the fact that since 10.2 is almost ready.. why waste time even making a 10.1 version for Honeycomb... |
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02-21-2011, 04:46 PM | #918 |
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Apple has said all along the reason that they don't support Flash is because the performance on their machines and devices SUCKS. And that's true. And it's exactly why it won't be included in the launch of the Xoom. They could use a version that isn't specifically tailored to the Tegra 2, but they won't, because it would be jittery and suck up battery life. That's exactly why it isn't included on Apple devices. When Flash can make a stable product on an Apple platform, Apple will include it. The whole thing just reeks of irony. Remember when people were hating on the iPhone because it didn't have Copy/Paste or SMS messaging at one point? Didn't stop them from saying that the device sucked, even though it got the features and implemented them just fine later on. So, you'll pardon me if I take the time to find the hypocrisy hilarious. |
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And your argument on Flash performance is dead on... if you are living in 2009. It simply isn't the case right now. I haven't seen any issues on my EVO. Have you seen how well Flash works on the Android 2.2 tablets? The FACT that you won't own up to is that Adobe fixed a number of the issues you are whining about. I am not a fan of Adobe by any measure, but the did a great job with Flash 10.1 All of that being said, I don't care for the Xoom. I'm not a fan of Motorola in general. #1 they are releasing it about a month too soon #2 they have it overpriced I fully expect the new crop of Honeycomb tablets that will be released in April/May/June to make the Xoom obsolete in a hurry. Last edited by AustinChief; 02-22-2011 at 11:24 AM.. |
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http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/...st-tablets.ars
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Yes, Motorola could hack an install for 10.1 but WHY waste the time when 10.2 is due out in less than a month? It isn't about performance, its about wasted resources on a product that will be out of date in a few weeks. Their mistake is launching the whole thing too early... Apple may have had a legitimate beef a few years ago... but right now they are just being bitches because Jobs has an agenda for HIS version of the web... even though his version of the web is still years away... how's that HTML5 prediction coming? Seems that things have changed VERY LITTLE since we had this argument almost a year ago... Fact is, Adobe has offered to develop 10.1 (soon 10.2) for Apple and Apple won't even LOOK at it.. this is well documented. |
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And to top it off, you have done it this entire thread. At least you're consistant. |
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Uh, what is wrong? People are installing Flash on their Xooms already. That's a fact. Yes, Motorola did launch too early, but the Xoom has been in development for longer than 10.1 has even been out. They had PLENTY of time to include some version of it, but they wanted to wait for one that wouldn't suck so that people wouldn't return the thing needlessly.
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You think I'm married to Apple and iOS or something, when that isn't the case at all. I'm looking for a new phone, and if the iPhone 5 isn't much of an upgrade, I'm staying with Sprint and getting an Android phone. I don't even use my Mac any longer. It's just a multimedia server at this point. Everything I do on an actual computer is done on my home built Win 7 machine. I'm far from a fanboy. I'm just not rabidly anti-Apple. Last edited by Silock; 02-23-2011 at 02:06 AM.. |
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Now, you CLAIM that Flash 10.1 doesn't perform well on the Xoom... kinda hard to make that claim with ZERO, yes ZERO benchmarks done with it. They didn't bother with it because it was a dead-end... end of story. You're seriously just making shit up at this point. Quote:
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Flash 10.1 is a massive improvement with huge strides in hardware acceleration... ALL of which Adobe offered to work with Apple on and Apple flat out REFUSED. You are also wrong about battery life... Flash 10.1 draws much much much less power than previous versions.. yes it draws more power than if your tablet or pc was OFF... or on a static html page... but come on.. you will need to use some battery to ACTUALLY DO THINGS. If you are seeing problems with Flash and you have the current version... the likely culprit is the Flash app itself... don't blame the platform for that. |
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02-23-2011, 12:43 PM | #928 |
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Oh, and the funny thing here is.. I hate Flash and refuse to develop with it if at all possible. Everything I develop is iPad compatible .. but that doesn't stop me from recognizing that we don't actually live in Steve Jobs' perfect world of HTML5 unicorns and rainbows... until then, any computing device I own is gonna need to be able to use Flash.
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54% of web video (as of 6 months ago) isn't bad at all. I can't find current numbers. But the argument wasn't just about HTML5 adoption. It was about an HTML5 site available for viewing on iOS *OR* an equivalent app for it. In fact, we had quite a discussion about the relative difficulty of tapping on a bookmark versus tapping on an app to access content. Don't change the parameters of the argument after the fact to suit your current point. Quote:
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I agree that if something is on your mobile, it better work... and it does work for every company that worked with Adobe... (and has decent hardware.. I assume we won't talk about the Chinese knockoff tablets) |
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