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***RYAN NASSIB***
...because Reid isn't going to "reach" for a QB in the 1st.
________________________________________________ http://www.buffalobillsdraft.com/201...ort/#more-4407 Prospect: Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse Orange Height: 6’2 Weight: 228 lbs. Grade: 6.9 (Grading Scale) Scouting Report Athleticism: +Underrated as an athlete, has the ability to tuck the ball and pick up first downs or get into the endzone +Thick build, he can take a hit and get back up +Moves well in the pocket, is able to side step and climb the pocket to avoid the pass rush +Balanced in his movements, though he does not always reset his feet when trying to make a throw -Listed at 6’2, and will need to measure out at that height for fear of dealing with the dreaded height questions that have plagued so many QB’s Arm Talent: +Has a very strong arm, can make any throw that a team needs him to +Puts enough pace on the ball to push the ball to the boundary side outside the hash +Can fit the ball into tight spaces due to his arm strength, can pick zone coverage when given the time +Release is compact and quick, though it doesn’t always come from the same arm slot +Will change his arm slot to fit the ball into a passing lane, this costs him little to no arm strength -At times puts too much faith into his arm and will try and throw the ball through the defense rather than take the easy check down -Only knows how to throw one type of pass and that’s the fast ball Pocket Presence: +Is more than willing to stand in the pocket and take a hit in order to deliver a pass +Rarely drops his eye level when manuevering inside the pocket +Good footwork to quicly move away from pressure +Has experience dropping back from under center, working out of 3, 5, and 7 step drops +Does well to sell the play-action fake coming away from center and turning his back to the defense Command of Offense: +Spent three years working under Doug Marrone and running an under center pro style offense +Is able to get CB’s to bite on pump fakes and will look safeties off his read +Unquestioned leader in the huddle, is one of the toughest players on the team and leads by example +Is more than willing to put the entire offense on his shoulders -Still developing the feel for when to check down or just throw the ball away, still believe his arm can make any play happen -Locks on to primary read and will not progress fast enough Overview: No senior QB showed me more this season than Ryan Nassib, his growth and command of this team is the illustration of a what a true field general is. Nassib was a guy I wasn’t completely sold on coming into his senior year but he showed me enough tell me that he deserves the benefit of the doubt. He needs to go to a team that has a strong offensive coordinator and QB coach who can help continue his development and help him smooth out some of his rougher edges. Nassib needs to continue to learn how to go through progressions and work on identifying the defense pre-snap so he knows what to do with the ball post-snap. In the end Nassib gives you a QB with that classic gun slinger mentality. He’s going to make some throws that are going to put you in a position to win a game and he’s going to make some throws that could cost you a game. Up until this year you never knew which one of those throws you were going to get on any given drop back but now he’s taken that next step further and seems destined to become a starter in the NFL one day. I’d put Nassib’s stock somewhere in the Round 2 to 3 range right now, but with the way QB’s are valued he could find himself closer to pick 32 than to pick 64. Scouting Notes Ryan Nassib v. Northwestern -good size for position -shows a clean, quick release -hits tight end over the middle, shows nice zip -throws on the run to the right, delivers a nice ball for big gain -looked over his available WR to the left, delivers a strike Ryan Nassib v. USC - 3rd and Short- his reads are covered and backside pressure comes, runs out of the pocket, throws the ball as he is being hit right to a USC defender – Really poor decision – Rolls out to his right has WR wide open, but doesn’t reset and misses the target high – Not a good start – Three step drop, needs to get rid of ball, but he pump fakes and gets sacked – Has little to no touch on short/intermediate passes, winds up like an outfielder throwing the ball and throws it as hard as he can Ryan Nassib v. Rutgers -Great level throw over linebackers, delivering high with velocity -Can hold the ball too long when initial read struggles to get open -Over-trusts first read a little long at times, needs to progress by reading DBs -Anticipates receiver routes/breaks very well, high velocity -Showcasing fantastic arm strength consistently -Better than usual velocity control in the middle of the field |
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i don't agree, i think barkley is FAR more fundamentally sound and therefor have a higher ceiling. I think they both could end up game managers but barkley's ceiling being that of matt ryan where nassib would be that of schaub.
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If you want a larger sample size, and I left Kap out of my list... Aaron Rodgers was 53% on throws of 20 or more. Best in the league in that category if we exclude Kap. So my question, and what I'm trying to figure out is if a % of 60 in the Big East or in the Pac 12 = a % of 40 or more in the NFL. Cause the guys with 40 or better in the NFL are the ones that seem to be near the top of their game. Anyways just started watching Nassib vs USC. |
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nice not to shabby then, i'm sure if you scewed the stats for the NFL being more difficult and the windows for deep balls smaller i'd say barkley and nassib would both be in the low 50% high 40% range. I'd take it especially since they both went 20+ yards a decent amount
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02-08-2013, 07:33 PM | #126 |
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ya but it's hard to determine how one area of any prospects game will translate to NFL. THe players are faster, windows are tighter and close quicker. just being generous saying those opportunities will be more limited and broken up more. Like i said i haven't seen much of nassib but i think barkley's game will translate perfect to NFL especially if put in the right system. which just so happens to be our system.
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I'll say this about Nassib. He will throw a TON of interceptions in the NFL. If he thinks he can squeeze in some of these throws in the NCAA, He's got a rude awakening. I was hoping to see something special out of him. And I see a few nice things. Just plenty of negatives. I'd be cautious with drafting him. Not worth a 1st at all IMO. Maybe a 2nd. Almost done on him though as far as game tape goes.
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can't wait for the barkley reviews. hope its good!
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I agree. Nassib doesn't have the touch either. That's his biggest weakness.
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seems to me nassib lacks anticipation in his throws. which could turn into alot of NFL picks for sure
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