The rules committee needs to review this... - Page 9

htismaqe · 12-18-2006, 08:59 AM

Let me preface by saying:

I don't care that the Chiefs lost. They aren't a good team and this play really had no bearing on the overall fact that they lost.

The rules committee needs to examine the rules surrounding blocked punts. A blocked punt is an EXTRAORDINARY play that happens just a few times a season for the entire league. So why penalize a team for making an extraordinary play?

It's unexplainable to me how, on a 4th and 12, it's possible for the punting team to fall on the ball short of the 1st down and GET A 1ST DOWN.

The solution is simple. Instead of making the touch rule apply beyond the LOS, make it apply beyond the 1st down marker. The punting team should only be able to get a 1st down if the ball is advanced beyond the 1st down marker.

rad · 12-18-2006, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Rick

Here's a related question...

The scenario is it's 3rd and 10. Team A hands off to its running back* who gains 2 yards before fumbling. A player on Team B scoops up the ball, runs 5 yards, then fumbles. Team A recovers. Does that mean it's now first down for Team A?
I absolutely agree that what happened last night should be reviewed for a rule change this offseason. I'm just curious if the same interpretation applies in a different scenario...

* - Okay, we all know Team A is the Chiefs due to the fact that Team A is running on 3rd down with 10 yards to go.

Yes. I've seen that before.

**Rain Man** · 12-18-2006, 07:05 PM

My play scenario on another thread involves the punting team trapping a player on the ground while the punter runs up and gently bounces the ball off of the guy with a soft kick. As long as the punter kicks it back up to himself, he can fall down and it's a first down, even if it was 4th and 50.

DanT · 12-18-2006, 07:26 PM

The current rule makes a lot of sense. There's an official at the line of scrimmage anyway and that's a natural way to define when the usual punt rules apply, when it's past the line of scrimmage. Defenders are supposed to know not to touch a punt that you can't be sure to take possession of, unless you're going to bat the damn ball out of bounds.

Shamrock · 12-18-2006, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

My play scenario on another thread involves the punting team trapping a player on the ground while the punter runs up and gently bounces the ball off of the guy with a soft kick. As long as the punter kicks it back up to himself, he can fall down and it's a first down, even if it was 4th and 50.

And the other team is going to let him "run up" and do that? No one is going to tackle him?

What if he misses his aimed punt? What about players downfield before the ball is kicked?

It's not plausible at all.

C-Mac · 12-18-2006, 08:10 PM

Hmmmmm...per NFL Rules.

5. The kicking team may never advance its own kick even though legal recovery is made beyond the line of scrimmage. Possession only.

12-18-2006, 08:59 AM
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	The rules committee needs to review this... Let me preface by saying: I don't care that the Chiefs lost. They aren't a good team and this play really had no bearing on the overall fact that they lost. The rules committee needs to examine the rules surrounding blocked punts. A blocked punt is an EXTRAORDINARY play that happens just a few times a season for the entire league. So why penalize a team for making an extraordinary play? It's unexplainable to me how, on a 4th and 12, it's possible for the punting team to fall on the ball short of the 1st down and GET A 1ST DOWN. The solution is simple. Instead of making the touch rule apply beyond the LOS, make it apply beyond the 1st down marker. The punting team should only be able to get a 1st down if the ball is advanced beyond the 1st down marker.
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12-18-2006, 07:26 PM	#123
DanT Veteran Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Davis, CA Casino cash: $4161711	The current rule makes a lot of sense. There's an official at the line of scrimmage anyway and that's a natural way to define when the usual punt rules apply, when it's past the line of scrimmage. Defenders are supposed to know not to touch a punt that you can't be sure to take possession of, unless you're going to bat the damn ball out of bounds.
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12-18-2006, 08:10 PM	#125
C-Mac Lurker Extraordinaire Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wally World Casino cash: $1963699	Hmmmmm...per NFL Rules. 5. The kicking team may never advance its own kick even though legal recovery is made beyond the line of scrimmage. Possession only.
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