Chiefs The Chiefs shouldn't select a QB in the 1st round - Page 9

kcbubb · 01-29-2009, 10:52 AM

The Chiefs should sign a free agent QB like Ryan Fitzpatrick. Or, if the Patriots would agree to it, swap first round picks with the Patriots for Matt Cassell.

The only defense in the league that was worse than the Chiefs was the 0-16 Detroit Lions. The Chiefs need, at a minimum, three new starters on defense (2 LB's & DE) if we stay in the 4-3. The Chiefs need defensive talent.

If the Chiefs do not swap first round picks with the Patriots for Cassell, the Chiefs would benefit the most by trading down and acquiring more picks and possibly getting more value out of their first round pick instead of reaching for a player. The Chiefs need defense with their first pick.

kcbubb · 01-29-2009, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefRon

No, it wouldn't be enough. From 8 to 3 would need to include next year's first, or a slew of picks this year.

Would two 3rd's and a 4th be considered a slew??? It's very possible that the chiefs could trade down a few spots. It would probably require multiple picks, but I would be happy with that.

**The Franchise** · 01-29-2009, 01:32 PM

So exactly who are we trading down for.

I want to hear your argument for trading down. I want to hear what team is going to trade up, for what player, what compensation and who we're going to be trading down for. And it better make some ****ing sense.

kcbubb · 01-29-2009, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefRon

Eli Manning.

Because Tyree caught the ball against his head??? give me a break.

the patriots would have put up 50 if it weren't for the d line of the giants.

ChiefRon · 01-29-2009, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

Because Tyree caught the ball against his head??? give me a break.

the patriots would have put up 50 if it weren't for the d line of the giants.

Did you pay any attention to Eli's stats during the postseason last year?

ChiefRon · 01-29-2009, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

Because Tyree caught the ball against his head??? give me a break.

the patriots would have put up 50 if it weren't for the gameplanning of Steve Spaugnolo and Eli's performance under pressure.

FYP

ChiefRon · 01-29-2009, 01:37 PM

BTW, we absolutely do need a pass rush. We need a DE (maybe 2) + multiple LBs.

I just don't see any worth #3 overall this year.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-29-2009, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

In the last 5 drafts (counting 2009) 17 (more than half) teams have had a Top 5 pick.

23 different teams have had a Top 10 pick in the last 5 drafts.

Still waiting for this to be addressed by the guy that claims that only bad GM's have high picks every year.

**The Franchise** · 01-29-2009, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

So exactly who are we trading down for.

I want to hear your argument for trading down. I want to hear what team is going to trade up, for what player, what compensation and who we're going to be trading down for. And it better make some ****ing sense.

Yeah well I'm still waiting on the thread starter to answer this one.

Coogs · 01-29-2009, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefRon

BTW, we absolutely do need a pass rush. We need a DE (maybe 2) + multiple LBs.

I just don't see any worth #3 overall this year.

And next years draft is very top heavy on the defensive side of the ball. Most likely we will be picking high again next year. Got the LT last year. Get the QB this year. Add the defender next year.

ChiefRon · 01-29-2009, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

Yeah well I'm still waiting on the thread starter to answer this one.

If he can provide a believable scenario where we pick up extra picks, nab a defender or two (well, there are actually multiple needs so I'll be flexible with this requirement), and secure a potential franchise QB, I would be all for it.

kcbubb · 01-29-2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

So exactly who are we trading down for.

I want to hear your argument for trading down. I want to hear what team is going to trade up, for what player, what compensation and who we're going to be trading down for. And it better make some ****ing sense.

Just for kicks, I'll give you a few. I don't know if any of these are possible or not, but who does.

The Bengals give a 3rd and 5th to move up from 6 to 3 to take Michael Crabtree before the Seahawks do at 4.

Jacksonville gives a 3rd, 4th and 4th next year to move from 8 to 3 to LT Andre Smith from Alabama.

San Fran gives a 2nd, 4th, and 4th next year to move from 10 to 3 to take Sanchez.

The Pats give Cassell and a 4th to move from 23 to 3 to take CB Malcolm Jenkins.

kcbubb · 01-29-2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

The Bengals give a 3rd and 5th to move up from 6 to 3 to take Michael Crabtree before the Seahawks do at 4.

This is assuming they let TJ go.

ChiefRon · 01-29-2009, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

The Bengals give a 3rd and 5th to move up from 6 to 3 to take Michael Crabtree before the Seahawks do at 4.

If they make it their 2nd & 5th, I would take it (although I don't have "the chart" in front of me)

Then I would take Sanchez (assuming Browns don't take a Qb...I would be a little hesitant on this if they trade Derek Anderson before the draft), and hope to land a LB (Cushing/Matthews) and a DE (Johnson?) in the 2nd.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-29-2009, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

Just for kicks, I'll give you a few. I don't know if any of these are possible or not, but who does.

The Bengals give a 3rd and 5th to move up from 6 to 3 to take Michael Crabtree before the Seahawks do at 4.

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

This is assuming they let TJ go.

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Originally Posted by ChiefRon

If they make it their 2nd & 5th, I would take it (although I don't have "the chart" in front of me)

Then I would take Sanchez (assuming Browns don't take a Qb...I would be a little hesitant on this if they trade Derek Anderson before the draft), and hope to land a LB (Cushing/Matthews) and a DE (Johnson?) in the 2nd.

Even if they let TJ walk, they still have Chris Henry and Jerome Simpson to replace him.

The Bengals have MUCH more pressing needs than a WR.

ChiefRon · 01-29-2009, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Even if they let TJ walk, they still have Chris Henry and Jerome Simpson to replace him.

The Bengals have MUCH more pressing needs than a WR.

Agreed, but if they were stupid enough to give up their 2nd & 5th to move up 3 spots, I would take it.

Chances of it happening? Slim to none.

01-29-2009, 10:52 AM
kcbubb Veteran Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $6056719	The Chiefs shouldn't select a QB in the 1st round The Chiefs should sign a free agent QB like Ryan Fitzpatrick. Or, if the Patriots would agree to it, swap first round picks with the Patriots for Matt Cassell. The only defense in the league that was worse than the Chiefs was the 0-16 Detroit Lions. The Chiefs need, at a minimum, three new starters on defense (2 LB's & DE) if we stay in the 4-3. The Chiefs need defensive talent. If the Chiefs do not swap first round picks with the Patriots for Cassell, the Chiefs would benefit the most by trading down and acquiring more picks and possibly getting more value out of their first round pick instead of reaching for a player. The Chiefs need defense with their first pick.
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The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2615047	So exactly who are we trading down for. I want to hear your argument for trading down. I want to hear what team is going to trade up, for what player, what compensation and who we're going to be trading down for. And it better make some ****ing sense.
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ChiefRon Starter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Memphis, TN Casino cash: $10004900	BTW, we absolutely do need a pass rush. We need a DE (maybe 2) + multiple LBs. I just don't see any worth #3 overall this year.
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