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Old 10-04-2012, 02:16 PM   #1
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Please tell how they didn't...
I've been over this a dozen times here. Bowlen needed to build a new stadium and had an agreement with Elway and TD that he would pay them at a later date. If Bowlen wasn't trying to get a new stadium it wouldn't have been an issue.

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Henderson did not directly address the issue of whether the club gained a competitive advantage but said the Broncos circumvented the cap to help pay for costs related to the construction of Invesco Field at Mile High.

"The investigation resulted in the discovery of undisclosed agreements between the club and Broncos players during the same period [1996-1998] pursuant to which various players agreed to defer certain compensation in exchange for a commitment to pay interest on the deferred amounts," Henderson said in the statement. "These agreements were plainly designed to help the club cope with seasonal cash flow problems exacerbated by the Broncos' need to fund front-end expenditures associated with development of the new stadium in Denver."

The Broncos reportedly were responsible for about $100 million of the approximately $401 million cost of Invesco Field at Mile High, which opened in 2001 and replaced Mile High Stadium as the team's home.
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Old 10-04-2012, 02:24 PM   #2
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I've been over this a dozen times here. Bowlen needed to build a new stadium and had an agreement with Elway and TD that he would pay them at a later date. If Bowlen wasn't trying to get a new stadium it wouldn't have been an issue.

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They circumvented the cap to pay for Crisco.

Why don't you just **** off already.
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Old 10-04-2012, 10:12 PM   #3
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Denver didn't gain a competitive advantage by what they did.
Damn you got more excuses than a brother headed to jail.
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Old 10-04-2012, 10:17 PM   #4
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Old 10-04-2012, 03:16 PM   #5
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This 95 Browns thing is such ****ing bullshit.

They act like what happened in New England was because of what started in Cleveland.

No assholes. TOM BRADY.
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Old 10-04-2012, 03:22 PM   #6
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What's sad is our GM is the one guy that would have watched Tom Brady up close, watched him win, watched him change the fortunes of everyone around him.

Then he saw Matt Cassel up close for years and thought he could win in the same way with him.

Scott Pioli is genious.
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Old 10-04-2012, 05:25 PM   #7
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While Brady is no doubt a huge part of NE's success... Belichick deserves credit for putting him in there. Its easy to say now but he left Brady in over a 1st overall $100 million QB. A lot of coaches wouldn't have done that... especially after Bledsoe won the AFC championship. I know most of the armchair GMs here wouldn't have done it. Not for a 6th round guy.
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Old 10-04-2012, 05:30 PM   #8
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While Brady is no doubt a huge part of NE's success... Belichick deserves credit for putting him in there. Its easy to say now but he left Brady in over a 1st overall $100 million QB. A lot of coaches wouldn't have done that... especially after Bledsoe won the AFC championship. I know most of the armchair GMs here wouldn't have done it. Not for a 6th round guy.
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Cause winning a superbowl with a final drive is totally not as good as and AFC title game. Where is milkman to call a dumbass when you need him
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Cause winning a superbowl with a final drive is totally not as good as and AFC title game. Where is milkman to call a dumbass when you need him
He'd call you a dumbass because until Hoodie benched the 1st round franchise QB there was no Lombardi...
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Old 10-04-2012, 10:39 PM   #10
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Cause winning a superbowl with a final drive is totally not as good as and AFC title game. Where is milkman to call a dumbass when you need him
Quality post here. You proved my point for me. You're absolutely right, winning a Super Bowl is better than an AFC title game. Belichick went into that first Super Bowl having to decide between their 1st round, $100 million QB with Super Bowl experience who had just won them the AFC title game over the Steelers after Brady got hurt... or the green 6th round QB with one playoff win... the Tuck Rule game, and he was lucky to win that.

As much as people may want to thrash and scream and cry, the whole thing happened because of Belichick. You have to remember that Bledsoe signed the richest contract in NFL history the previous offseason. What Belichick did took balls. I think there are very few guys who would bench a $100 million QB, or the richest QB in the game... and there are plenty of coaches who believe starters can't lose their job due to injury. Or people who have egos too big to do what Belichick did. Brady may very well be the Patriot way... but he created it because Belichick didn't let his ego get in the way of winning games.
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Quality post here. You proved my point for me. You're absolutely right, winning a Super Bowl is better than an AFC title game. Belichick went into that first Super Bowl having to decide between their 1st round, $100 million QB with Super Bowl experience who had just won them the AFC title game over the Steelers after Brady got hurt... or the green 6th round QB with one playoff win... the Tuck Rule game, and he was lucky to win that.

As much as people may want to thrash and scream and cry, the whole thing happened because of Belichick. You have to remember that Bledsoe signed the richest contract in NFL history the previous offseason. What Belichick did took balls. I think there are very few guys who would bench a $100 million QB, or the richest QB in the game... and there are plenty of coaches who believe starters can't lose their job due to injury. Or people who have egos too big to do what Belichick did. Brady may very well be the Patriot way... but he created it because Belichick didn't let his ego get in the way of winning games.
If you're 0-2 with Bledsoe and 11-3 with Brady, and then Brady wins a playoff game you'd have BALLS to put Bledsoe back in. This is a no brainer...
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If you're 0-2 with Bledsoe and 11-3 with Brady, and then Brady wins a playoff game you'd have BALLS to put Bledsoe back in. This is a no brainer...
Brady was knocked out early in the AFC Championship... Bledsoe came in and did well enough to win on the road in Pittsburgh. Spin it any way you want, there was a legitimate debate at the time about who should start the Super Bowl. It's easy to pass judgment in hindsight knowing what Brady went on to do. But if you start a 6th round QB over a 1st round pick who has the biggest contract in football... you better be right.
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If you're 0-2 with Bledsoe and 11-3 with Brady, and then Brady wins a playoff game you'd have BALLS to put Bledsoe back in. This is a no brainer...
Brady didn't win the AFC Championship, Bledsoe did. Brady got injured.
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If you're 0-2 with Bledsoe and 11-3 with Brady, and then Brady wins a playoff game you'd have BALLS to put Bledsoe back in. This is a no brainer...

You have no idea how split the fan base up here was over that SB decision. To me it was a no brainer for Brady, but many here thought otherwise. And by many, I mean MANY!
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