Chiefs Sirius MTC interview with Todd Haley - Page 4

ChiefRon · 03-23-2009, 02:05 PM

Just mentioned, supposed to be in the next hour or so...

FWIW

Noss · 03-23-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

If you really think Tyler Thigpen is the best player, then I don't see a need to carry on this conversation.

The point is...

Pioli knows what he has in Cassel. He gushed over him in his intro PC. He's not paying the type of compensation that was required to obtain his services (16 million this year, plus a 2nd rounder) unless he KNEW he was going to be the starter.

They watched Tyler Thigpen tape. They saw what most of us saw. An erratic QB, who couldn't make adjustments. I shutter to think what defenses will do to him next year when they have about 10 games of tape to study.

This is NFL economics. It has nothing to do with whether I want the best player starting. It has everything to do with you don't tie up large contracts on bench players.

I stated earlier, if you look back it the thread, that if Cassell can't win the starting job from Thigpen he shouldn't be the starter. I'm not a fan of any player but an fan of the Chiefs as a team. The right 53.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-23-2009, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

If Cassel can't win the starting job from Thigpen we just traded a 2nd round pick for a complete piece of shit.

I guess the only real question left is will Pioli be using the metal or plastic spatula to flip Matt "The Pancake" Cassel?

Decisions, decisions...

keg in kc · 03-23-2009, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Noss

I stated earlier, if you look back it the thread, that if Cassell can't win the starting job from Thigpen he shouldn't be the starter. I'm not a fan of any player but an fan of the Chiefs as a team. The right 53.

if Cassell can't win the starting job from Thigpen you don't make the trade.

Noss · 03-23-2009, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

if Cassell can't win the starting job from Thigpen you don't make the trade.

What three QB do you keep if you don't trade for Cassell?

keg in kc · 03-23-2009, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Noss

What three QB do you keep if you don't trade for Cassell?

What difference does that make? They did trade for him.

Noss · 03-23-2009, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

What difference does that make? They did trade for him.

They had to trade for for Cassell because we couldn't have Thigpen as our only option at QB. If Thigpen thinks he has a chance at the starting position he will work harder to be a good backup, that he will be, if needed.

keg in kc · 03-23-2009, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Noss

They had to trade for for Cassell because we couldn't have Thigpen as our only option at QB. If Thigpen thinks he has a chance at the starting position he will work harder to be a good backup, that he will be, if needed.

You don't have to spend a day 1 pick if all you're looking for is competition for your third stringer. That's what free agency is for, and any warm body would do.

Barret · 03-23-2009, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Noss

They had to trade for for Cassell because we couldn't have Thigpen as our only option at QB. If Thigpen thinks he has a chance at the starting position he will work harder to be a good backup, that he will be, if needed.

You dont trade away the 34th pick in the draft and have a QB on your roster that is making 14.5 million if he is going to be the back up. If we used your logic why did the Patriots get rid of him? Brady needs a backup correct? Heck they need to have some competition for the starting spot in New England as well.

If we wanted to have some competition in the QB slot then we would Pick Stafford at the #3 spot and saved our 2nd round pick. Even then Stafford or even Sanchez would have been starting by week 5 over Thigpen.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-23-2009, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

You don't have to spend a day 1 pick if all you're looking for is competition for your third stringer. That's what free agency is for, and any warm body would do.

Important part highlighted for emphasis.

Noss · 03-23-2009, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

You don't have to spend a day 1 pick if all you're looking for is competition for your third stringer. That's what free agency is for, and any warm body would do.

Yes you do when your 2008 first and second stringer are worse then your third stringer.

keg in kc · 03-23-2009, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Noss

Yes you do when your 2008 first and second stringer are worse then your third stringer.

No, you don't have to make a trade. Any street free agent would be competition for your third stringer. The towel boy would be competition for your third stringer. A tackling dummy would be competition for your third stringer. It doesn't take the 34th pick of the draft. You spend that when you're looking for more.

Blick · 03-23-2009, 09:45 PM

Should Cassel beat out Thigpen? Absolutely. Is it possible that Thigpen pulls something out of his ass and beats out Cassel? Yes. It's possible. Is it likely? No.

Pioli doesn't decide who starts. Haley does. So, the fact that Pioli traded for his guy doesn't mean much.

Keep in mind that Cassel only threw 3 more TD's than Thigpen in 96 more attempts with better receivers.

Cassel in New England was obviously better than Thigpen in KC. But, Cassel in KC may be a lot closer to Thigpen's level.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-23-2009, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

No, you don't have to make a trade. Any street free agent would be competition for your third stringer. The towel boy would be competition for your third stringer. A tackling dummy would be competition for your third stringer. It doesn't take the 34th pick of the draft. You spend that when you're looking for more.

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Originally Posted by Blick

Should Cassel beat out Thigpen? Absolutely. Is it possible that Thigpen pulls something out of his ass and beats out Cassel? Yes. It's possible. Is it likely? No.

Pioli doesn't decide who starts. Haley does. So, the fact that Pioli traded for his guy doesn't mean much.

Keep in mind that Cassel only threw 3 more TD's than Thigpen in 96 more attempts with better receivers.

Cassel in New England was obviously better than Thigpen in KC. But, Cassel in KC may be a lot closer to Thigpen's level.

Man, you better hop back on Mr. Rodger's trolley, and ride your ass on out of the land of make believe!

Blick · 03-23-2009, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

Man, you better hop back on Mr. Rodger's trolley, and ride your ass on out of the land of make believe!

Players improve. An improved Thigpen would probably be better than Cassel if he chokes and pulls a Derek Anderson.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-23-2009, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Blick

Players improve. An improved Thigpen would probably be better than Cassel if he chokes and pulls a Derek Anderson.

To me, an "improved Thigpen" would be a Thigpen throwing to more than one receiver, and hitting that receiver in the numbers instead of the shins or balls.

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Blick Veteran Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: South KC Casino cash: $10004900	Should Cassel beat out Thigpen? Absolutely. Is it possible that Thigpen pulls something out of his ass and beats out Cassel? Yes. It's possible. Is it likely? No. Pioli doesn't decide who starts. Haley does. So, the fact that Pioli traded for his guy doesn't mean much. Keep in mind that Cassel only threw 3 more TD's than Thigpen in 96 more attempts with better receivers. Cassel in New England was obviously better than Thigpen in KC. But, Cassel in KC may be a lot closer to Thigpen's level.
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