Football Schefter :Colin Kaepernick can't cash in - Page 7

**Rausch** · 01-26-2013, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

the problem with this thread is people are getting confused between Sam Bradford and top 15 picks and Russell Wilson and Alfred Morris as late round picks.

The problem with this thread is you're arguing a point you don't know jack shit about.

Every negotiation tool that was available before is now AFTER you sign your rookie contract...

Hootie · 01-26-2013, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

The problem with this thread is you're arguing a point you don't know jack shit about.

Every negotiation tool that was available before is now AFTER you sign your rookie contract...

why don't you read the important parts that I just quoted...

looks like he can't holdout for more money...unless I am missing something

Rasputin · 01-26-2013, 01:44 PM

Must play sad song

Hootie · 01-26-2013, 01:39 PM

...?

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Colin Kaepernick can't cash in

Like Kaepernick, Wilson has no way out. He is stuck with the deal until after the 2014 season, despite being added to the Pro Bowl this week and looking like he could go for years to come.

These two deals expose one of the biggest weaknesses in the CBA for the players and one of the biggest strengths for owners. Young NFL players have no choice but to suck it up for three years, even if they play at the level Kaepernick and Wilson have. Meanwhile, NFL owners get to build cheaply through the draft and own players' rights for five to six years, without the threat of arbitration that Major League Baseball has.

So much attention was given to the issue that standout rookies in the new 10-year CBA now are being punished for it. In part because of Russell, Kaepernick and Wilson are underpaid.

There is no reprieve, no chance to be paid until a player has given a team three seasons. By then, some running backs, such as an Alfred Morris, will have plenty of wear on their tires.

Young players such as Kaepernick who help lead their team to the Super Bowl cannot demand new deals the way they seemed to regularly in the past.

New-school is the ultimate form of detention for standout young players. The CBA locks up their contracts for three years and throws away the key, with no chance of parole.

Until the rules are adjusted, the players will continue to be wronged. And after watching Kaepernick and Wilson this season and seeing what they will earn in future seasons, one truth is self-evident: The holes in the CBA are a lot bigger than any they find in opposing defenses.

Hootie · 01-26-2013, 01:42 PM

I don't understand what Brock and Rausch just did there...

I expect it from Rausch, he's consistently wrong and argues terrible points and is always on the wrong side of the fence...

but Brock? He's a condescending asshole but he's usually at least logical. I have no idea what they just did there.

**Rausch** · 01-26-2013, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

I don't understand what Brock and Rausch just did there...

I expect it from Rausch, he's consistently wrong and argues terrible points and is always on the wrong side of the fence...

Your opinion, but also wrong.

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

but Brock? He's a condescending asshole but he's usually at least logical. I have no idea what they just did there.

All draft day contracts are pretty much set in stone. When you come in you make $X.

After that you're in the NFL. The contract is ****ing meaningless. The new rules are there to keep rookies from eating up huge cap space and guaranteed $$$...

Hootie · 01-26-2013, 01:46 PM

Must suck to be dumber than a waiter, eh? I don't work in restaurants anymore but I know attacking someone's job when I'm wrong is the mature way to do things! For being a complete idiot in this thread, you at least showed you amazingly mature you are! Congrats.

Brock · 01-26-2013, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

Must suck to be dumber than a waiter, eh? I don't work in restaurants anymore but I know attacking someone's job when I'm wrong is the mature way to do things! For being a complete idiot in this thread, you at least showed you amazingly mature you are! Congrats.

Can you answer the question? Also, this fork is dirty, bring me a clean one.

Hootie · 01-26-2013, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Can you answer the question? Also, this fork is dirty, bring me a clean one.

I've already answered your question now 4 times.

The NFL CBA would prevent the 49ers from reworking Kaepernick's contract EVEN IF THEY WANTED TO.

You're making yourself look like an asshole.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 01-26-2013, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

I've already answered your question now 4 times.

The NFL CBA would prevent the 49ers from reworking Kaepernick's contract EVEN IF THEY WANTED TO.

You're making yourself look like an asshole.

This

**Rausch** · 01-26-2013, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

I've already answered your question now 4 times.

The NFL CBA would prevent the 49ers from reworking Kaepernick's contract EVEN IF THEY WANTED TO.

No.

You can talk louder but it doesn't validate your point...

Hootie · 01-26-2013, 01:52 PM

this is where you should try and save face and leave the thread and pretend it never happened Brock. You usually don't subject yourself to looking like this big of a dipshit. I'm surprised.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 01-26-2013, 01:54 PM

This is a good rule by the NFL and NFLPA. I bet the Jags want the money they wasted on Gabbert back works both ways.

Hootie · 01-26-2013, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

This is a good rule by the NFL. I bet the Jags want the money they wasted on Gabbert back works both ways.

How so?

They are holding certain players hostage in a profession where careers can end in the matter of one hit.

It's a gross injustice to a person's livelihood. These are professionals and the ones who outperform their contracts deserve to have the right to seek proper compensation.

and besides, Gabbert makes less than Kyle Orton. He makes $3M a year (albeit fully guaranteed)

ShowtimeSBMVP · 01-26-2013, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

How so?

They are holding certain players hostage in a profession where careers can end in the matter of one hit.

It's a gross injustice to a person's livelihood. These are professionals and the ones who outperform their contracts deserve to have the right to seek proper compensation.

and besides, Gabbert makes less than Kyle Orton. He makes $3M a year (albeit fully guaranteed)

Rookie wage scale is a good thing. How many times did a NFL owner get ****ed before it? A LOT

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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I don't understand what Brock and Rausch just did there... I expect it from Rausch, he's consistently wrong and argues terrible points and is always on the wrong side of the fence... but Brock? He's a condescending asshole but he's usually at least logical. I have no idea what they just did there.
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	this is where you should try and save face and leave the thread and pretend it never happened Brock. You usually don't subject yourself to looking like this big of a dipshit. I'm surprised.
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