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Hammock Parties · 09-16-2013, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dizz

Compared to Cassell every single one of you KC fans should be THRILLED to have Alex Smith

Brock · 09-16-2013, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dizz

Compared to Cassell every single one of you KC fans should be THRILLED to have Alex Smith

Um...I like the guy, but why is it THRILLING to not have dogshit at QB?

**Rausch** · 09-16-2013, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragged Robin

I like how we we've already matched last year's total wins and people are still crying about him not being elite. 4 TDs 0 INTs, has some wheels, doesn't do anything particularly mind-numblingly reeruned ala Cassel, and appears to be a good locker-room leader and people are still throwing him under the bus? Shouldn't you wait until he fails before you start crying your eyes out?

I think he's played about as I expected him to.

I don't expect him to get much better or much worse. What you see is what you get. He's a solid stop-gap until there's a draft with a QB that tickles Dorsey's fancy...

**The Bad Guy** · 09-16-2013, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

If Alex Smith elevates his play and shows he CAN beat an elite team in the playoffs (and no, the 2011 New Orleans Saints do not count), I'll be all for it.

I hope that happens. It's what is best for my team.

If he game manages them to 10-6 and a first-round playoff blowout (where the offense is anemic), while passing for 3300 yards at a 62 percent clip with 20-8 TD/INT? Yeah, I would have a problem with that.

He needs to show more than what he has so far or even in the past two years before a smart franchise hitches its wagon to him long-term.

So you want him to beat an elite team in the playoffs. He beat a team that won the SB less than 2 years prior to when he beat them. The team that has an all-world offense, and that he answered 2 late scoring drives against?

There's one thing to really hate Alex Smith but it's another to discredit a playoff win. I'm not sold on committing to him past next year right now either, but A 21-5-1 record over his last 27 games is a hard to ignore stat for me.

While I'm on this, who exactly is an elite team that's not flawed on one side of the ball?

**petegz28** · 09-16-2013, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

If Alex Smith elevates his play and shows he CAN beat an elite team in the playoffs (and no, the 2011 New Orleans Saints do not count), I'll be all for it.

I hope that happens. It's what is best for my team.

If he game manages them to 10-6 and a first-round playoff blowout (where the offense is anemic), while passing for 3300 yards at a 62 percent clip with 20-8 TD/INT? Yeah, I would have a problem with that.

He needs to show more than what he has so far or even in the past two years before a smart franchise hitches its wagon to him long-term.

...yeah, beating the Saints who had just won a Super Bowl doesn't count as beating an elite team.

He's won more playoff games than any of our QB's since Montana. Just sayin'

Oh wait, that game doesn't count, I forgot.

Hammock Parties · 09-16-2013, 08:29 PM

Tebow won a playoff game too.

**petegz28** · 09-16-2013, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead

Tebow won a playoff game too.

Doesn't count...Steelers aren't eeeeeeeelite

Jakemall · 09-16-2013, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

In the past decade or so, I'd say it's become more about winning than any other single factor. It's a quarterback league, so logically, the best QBs are going to beat the top competition and win 2nd/3rd round playoff games and SBs. Good quarterbacks can put up elite stats (at times, anyway), but can't get over the hump and consistently win when it matters.

Overall though, mixing in different eras, I think it's a much more complicated question... it was more of a team game back in the day, so there were guys like Marino who put up the stats, but didn't get a ring, and guys who coasted (relative to other QBs) to a championship with an elite defense or simply an overall better team game that wasn't focused on the QB.

So where exactly does a 21-5-1 record over his last 27 games put Alex Smith if that is the case?

**Mav** · 09-16-2013, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead

lol

Jakemall · 09-16-2013, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead

Tebow won a playoff game too.

You're right. And Peyton Manning only won 1 play-off game more with basically the same exact team...so Peyton Manning is more or less equal to Tebow, right?

Right?.......Right????

Jakemall · 09-16-2013, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

I'll wait to see if he can go 4-0 before I post that on the 9er site. I will though if it happens.

**Bearcat** · 09-16-2013, 08:38 PM

Yeah, that Saints win was legit... their defense sucked, but it's not like it was horribly bad by any means.

**Bearcat** · 09-16-2013, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall

So where exactly does a 21-5-1 record over his last 27 games put Alex Smith if that is the case?

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

In the past decade or so, I'd say it's become more about winning than any other single factor. It's a quarterback league, so logically, the best QBs are going to beat the top competition and win 2nd/3rd round playoff games and SBs. Good quarterbacks can put up elite stats (at times, anyway), but can't get over the hump and consistently win when it matters.

Overall though, mixing in different eras, I think it's a much more complicated question... it was more of a team game back in the day, so there were guys like Marino who put up the stats, but didn't get a ring, and guys who coasted (relative to other QBs) to a championship with an elite defense or simply an overall better team game that wasn't focused on the QB.

chief4life · 09-16-2013, 08:41 PM

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-networ...-is-Alex-Smith

I am not going to even get in this dumb debate with half of you why you think he sucks. The ending results is the guy is a winner and wins when it counts! But don't take my advice just click the link and watch these two Superbowl coaches who have won it all before you say different. All this crap that Alex can't throw deep is so stupid. Just look at tape he can throw the ball more than 30 yards! He is our QB stand behind him. We are 2-0 I just don't get it. Geno is far from ready to be a quality starter.

**Mav** · 09-16-2013, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

Yeah, that Saints win was legit... their defense sucked, but it's not like it was horribly bad by any means.

it wasn't that year. It sure was last year though. Jesus.....epically bad.

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chief4life Brad Henson Productions Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Overland Park, KS Casino cash: $9548502	http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-networ...-is-Alex-Smith I am not going to even get in this dumb debate with half of you why you think he sucks. The ending results is the guy is a winner and wins when it counts! But don't take my advice just click the link and watch these two Superbowl coaches who have won it all before you say different. All this crap that Alex can't throw deep is so stupid. Just look at tape he can throw the ball more than 30 yards! He is our QB stand behind him. We are 2-0 I just don't get it. Geno is far from ready to be a quality starter.
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