2014 NFL Combine - Players - The TEs

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by Wilson8

I really like Crockett Gillmore in the 5th round. At 6'6", 260, he's not fast, 4.89, but he is a good blocker and also a very good receiver. He really was the best receiving TE in the Senior Bowl.

cbssports.com said this about him -

We already have him, Sean McBeard.

[Wilson8]

I liked Sean and he helped KC last year. Sean is not as good a blocker and also not as good of a receiver as Crockett. Speed rushers went right around Sean this year.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by Wilson8

I liked Sean and he helped KC last year. Sean is not as good a blocker and also not as good of a receiver as Crockett. Speed rushers went right around Sean this year.

Yeah, but still. If we draft a TE this year, he better be one who can take the top off of a defense. I don't want another slow and steady Fasano on the roster.

Know what I'm really interested in? Seeing if Demetrius Harris has developed at all with his year on the practice squad.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

Yeah, but still. If we draft a TE this year, he better be one who can take the top off of a defense. I don't want another slow and steady Fasano on the roster.

Know what I'm really interested in? Seeing if Demetrius Harris has developed at all with his year on the practice squad.

How many TEs consistently do this in the NFL?

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by Sorter

How many TEs consistently do this in the NFL?

There are various ways of doing it, I'm not just referring to pure speed when I say that.

Guys like Gronk, Graham, and Cameron are threats down field because they have just enough speed to outrun LBs and get 15-25 yards down the seem in under 3 seconds and then they have the size to box out and high point the ball over any DB that might be there.

Who can do that in this draft? ASJ and Amaro.

Then you have Walker and Davis who aren't particularly big or great at high pointing the ball but are able to just outrun coverages to get open deep. Too fast for LBs and too fast for most safeties and some CBs.

That's Burton, Lyerla, and Leonard.

And Ebron is a combination of both types of what I consider TEs who can take the top off of a defense: He has enough speed to win deep on that alone, but also the size ball skills to dominate at the point of the catch. He does have some concentration issues though when it comes to catching the ball; needs to work on it like VD did.

[Exoter175]

I can't shake Fiedorowicz as my guy if we have to draft a TE. I don't think we have a shot at Ebron or Amaro, nor do I think it'll be worth drafting them in the 23rd with who we will have available. I think we can get Fiedorowicz extremely late in this draft, and he comes as one of the most well rounded guys at the position in the draft and comes from a pretty solid lineage of college TE's there at Iowa.

[Ragged Robin]

Originally Posted by Sorter

How many TEs consistently do this in the NFL?

Alex's old BFF Vernon Davis for one.

[Jakemall]

Originally Posted by Ragged Robin

Alex's old BFF Vernon Davis for one.

He's the only starting Te with a 4.3 that I know of...

[planetdoc]

Originally Posted by Wilson8

I liked Sean and he helped KC last year. Sean is not as good a blocker and also not as good of a receiver as Crockett. Speed rushers went right around Sean this year.

blocking can be coached.

As for recieving, I think Clay posted some PFF stats of all the chiefs receivers and that McGrath had a very low drop rate.

[ForeverChiefs58]

Colt Lyerla said some controversial things last year about the Sandy Hook shootings

NFL Media recently provided a broad, vague assessment of former Oregon tight end Colt Lyerla, calling him “[o]verly emotional and prone to outbursts following a dysfunctional childhood that offered little direction and much confusion related to a divorce.”

In March 2013, Lyerla had one specific outburst that could create some red flags for one or more NFL teams interested in Lyerla. At that time, Lyerla posted multiple Twitter messages expressing support for the idea that the mass shooting at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut were in some way the result of a governmental conspiracy.

“The parents of the kids that supposedly died in the sandy hook situation are liars,” Lyerla tweeted and later deleted, according to Graham Watson of Yahoo! Sports.

The University of Oregon at the time denounced Lyerla’s tweets on the topic, calling them “insensitive and offensive.” Lyerla was dismissed from the team in October 2013 for an unspecified rules violation, and he later pleaded guilty to cocaine possession.

Multiple NFL teams may feel the same way, and some teams (especially the Giants, Jets, and Patriots, who all play in the region containing Newtown) will surely remove Lyerla from their draft boards based his comments about Sandy Hook — unless he persuasively and unequivocally denounces them and apologizes for them, or at a minimum explains that cocaine is indeed a hell of a drug.

Teams presumably knew about Lyerla’s remarks, and teams presumably grilled him for them at the Scouting Combine. Beyond the interview room, Lyerla had a mixed bag of Combine results. He managed only 15 reps in the 225-pound bench press, the fewest for all tight ends. In contrast, he ran the 40-yard dash in 4.61 seconds, putting him behind only Eric Ebron and A.C. Leonard at the position.

Lyerla also pocketed $100,000 for generating the fastest 40-yard dash while wearing a specific Adidas shoe. The prize was promoted in Indy by Snoop Dogg, who may have advised Lyerla to switch to marijuana.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58

Colt Lyerla said some controversial things last year about the Sandy Hook shootings

NFL Media recently provided a broad, vague assessment of former Oregon tight end Colt Lyerla, calling him “[o]verly emotional and prone to outbursts following a dysfunctional childhood that offered little direction and much confusion related to a divorce.”

In March 2013, Lyerla had one specific outburst that could create some red flags for one or more NFL teams interested in Lyerla. At that time, Lyerla posted multiple Twitter messages expressing support for the idea that the mass shooting at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut were in some way the result of a governmental conspiracy.

“The parents of the kids that supposedly died in the sandy hook situation are liars,” Lyerla tweeted and later deleted, according to Graham Watson of Yahoo! Sports.

The University of Oregon at the time denounced Lyerla’s tweets on the topic, calling them “insensitive and offensive.” Lyerla was dismissed from the team in October 2013 for an unspecified rules violation, and he later pleaded guilty to cocaine possession.

Multiple NFL teams may feel the same way, and some teams (especially the Giants, Jets, and Patriots, who all play in the region containing Newtown) will surely remove Lyerla from their draft boards based his comments about Sandy Hook — unless he persuasively and unequivocally denounces them and apologizes for them, or at a minimum explains that cocaine is indeed a hell of a drug.

Teams presumably knew about Lyerla’s remarks, and teams presumably grilled him for them at the Scouting Combine. Beyond the interview room, Lyerla had a mixed bag of Combine results. He managed only 15 reps in the 225-pound bench press, the fewest for all tight ends. In contrast, he ran the 40-yard dash in 4.61 seconds, putting him behind only Eric Ebron and A.C. Leonard at the position.

Lyerla also pocketed $100,000 for generating the fastest 40-yard dash while wearing a specific Adidas shoe. The prize was promoted in Indy by Snoop Dogg, who may have advised Lyerla to switch to marijuana.

He'll fit right in... posting in DC.

[ForeverChiefs58]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

He'll fit right in... posting in DC.

Can see him as a Raider

[saphojunkie]

I was all about us taking a tight end until the wide receivers hit the field.

[Jakemall]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

I was all about us taking a tight end until the wide receivers hit the field.

I'd say give Kelce a chance, but draft another TE in the 4-6th rounds that can be developed.

I'd like to see the Chiefs trade out of their pick unless something sweet falls in their laps and get an extra 2nd and 3rd. This draft is rich in DBs and Wrs..which happen to be part of the team's needs.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Jakemall

I'd say give Kelce a chance, but draft another TE in the 4-6th rounds that can be developed.

Kelce absolutely SHOULD get his chance, there are still high hopes about that guy... but those chances should be challenged and tempered by another 1-3rd round pick.

A formidable two TE set will be a magic elixir for Smith, they're PERFECT for his skill set.