2014 NFL Combine - Players - The DT

[O.city]

I've soured on Hageman due to off field concerns and whether he'll play hard or not.

I'd much rather have Tuitt at this point.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by O.city

I've soured on Hageman due to off field concerns and whether he'll play hard or not.

I'd much rather have Tuitt at this point.

Yup, Tuitt is much younger also.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

Yup, Tuitt is much younger also.

If Hageman had Crichton's motor, he'd be my pick.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by O.city

If Hageman had Crichton's motor, he'd be my pick.

Yeah, but give me Brent Urban in the 3rd-4th over either of those guys in the 1st. When Urban is on his game, he really looks like JJ Swat.

[planetdoc]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

When Urban is on his game, he really looks like JJ Swat.

can you show me an example of that?

I've watched some of his different games and am not impressed. IMO, he needs to get much stronger. I am also concerned that he is still not over his high-ankle injury he suffered in october.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by planetdoc

can you show me an example of that?

I've watched some of his different games and am not impressed. IMO, he needs to get much stronger. I am also concerned that he is still not over his high-ankle injury he suffered in october.

Strength is not his problem at all. He's a really strong player but is technically raw. He really needs to develop some pass rush moves and overall use of his hands. His power was never in question, he routinely drives blockers back into the backfield and dominates with his strength and length; however, he seems to not know when to shed and is content with just latching on like a blocker and trying to bull rush his blocker into the QB. Maybe it's due to scheme, who knows?

Here is a little tidbit from Roto:

Virginia DT Brent Urban "could be a sleeper," according to ESPN.com's Todd McShay.
"I'd call him a poor man's J.J. Watt right now in terms of fit and also based on his special knack for swatting passes," McShay wrote. "He's a perfect 3-4 defensive end, creating good leverage against the run despite a long, 6-7, 295-pound frame. He uses his length well, both knocking down passes at the line of scrimmage and also using his strength and long arms to shed blocks, and can also just push a blocker backward when he's not doubled. He broke his foot before the Senior Bowl, but that could help turn him into a steal on Day 2." Urban led all FBS defensive lineman with nine pass breakups last season despite playing in just eight games. McShay's colleague Steve Muench compared him favorably to 2012 San Diego second-round pick Kendall Reyes in February. Muench added that Jacksonville, Indianapolis and New England were potential Urban landing spots. Mar 31 - 10:32 PM

[planetdoc]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

Strength is not his problem at all. He's a really strong player but is technically raw. He really needs to develop some pass rush moves and overall use of his hands. His power was never in question, he routinely drives blockers back into the backfield and dominates with his strength and length; however, he seems to not know when to shed and is content with just latching on like a blocker and trying to bull rush his blocker into the QB. Maybe it's due to scheme, who knows?

I can read what you are saying, and again I disagree. I have watched his highlight videos as well as the 3 videos on draft breakdown.

Once again, your claims and statements are not sufficient. Please show examples (you can link to a video with the times). Urban is a nice developmental prospect because of his length and size, but I dont see any of the things you have described.