Chris Weinke (IMG Academy) Talks with Danny Parkins about upcoming QB class.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by O.city

Just because he's being told not to do it, doesn't make it the right decision.

Just because we want to see him throw doesn't make it the wrong decision either.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Just because we want to see him throw doesn't make it the wrong decision either.

Sure.


But running around saying its in his best interest not to do it, simply because previous guys didn't or he is being advised not to doesn't mean it isn't a questionable decision.


It may work out, it may not.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by O.city

Sure.


But running around saying its in his best interest not to do it, simply because previous guys didn't or he is being advised not to doesn't mean it isn't a questionable decision.


It may work out, it may not.

Nobody is saying it's in his best interest not to do it.

I've said all along that its possible, and even likely, that he is BEING ADVISED its in his best interest not to do it.

And the fact that guys have skipped it before without consequence certainly suggests that if he decides to skip it, he will be just fine.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Nobody is saying it's in his best interest not to do it.

I've said all along that its possible, and even likely, that he is BEING ADVISED its in his best interest not to do it.

And the fact that guys have skipped it before without consequence certainly suggests that if he decides to skip it, he will be just fine.

Yes, but this situation is a little different. Normally, when a QB skips it, it's because he's the head and shoulders QB of that class. Based on what we are being told, at this point, Geno isn't considered to be that.


Like I said, maybe what we are being told is wrong, maybe what Geno is being told is wrong. I'd think his agents have a better idea of what teams are thinking than some internet mock draft guys do, but at this point we just don't know.

[BossChief]

Fitzpatrick
Tannehill
Brady
Sanchez
Flacco
Dalton
Weeden
Rothlisberger
Shaub
Luck
Gabbert
Locker
Manning
Cassel
Palmer
Rivers
Romo
Eli
Foles
RG3
Cutler
Stafford
Rodgers
Ponder
Ryan
Newton
Brees
Freeman
Kolb
Bradford
Kaepernick
Wilson

I might be inclined to retract my top ten comment and push it back to top 15 as it sits...with work on his lower body, there is no reason to think he can't jump up one group and be in the op ten because I don't think there is a big difference between his arm and Rodgers'.

Show me te guys on that list that CLEARLY have a stronger arm than Geno.

I don't think there are more than maybe 5 more that I didn't highlight.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Fitzpatrick
Tannehill
Brady
Sanchez
Flacco
Dalton
Weeden
Rothlisberger
Shaub
Luck
Gabbert
Locker
Manning
Cassel
Palmer
Rivers
Romo
Eli
Foles
RG3
Cutler
Stafford
Rodgers
Ponder
Ryan
Newton
Brees
Freeman
Kolb
Bradford
Kaepernick
Wilson

I might be inclined to retract my top ten comment and push it back to top 15 as it sits...with work on his lower body, there is no reason to think he can't jump up one group and be in the op ten because I don't think there is a big difference between his arm and Rodgers'.

Show me te guys on that list that CLEARLY have a stronger arm than Geno.

I don't think there are more than maybe 5 more that I didn't highlight.

I would add Freeman and RG3.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

I would add Freeman and RG3.

Tannehill, Rodgers, rg3, freeman, Luck and Gabbert are the guys that I see as having arm strength that is at a similar level to Geno.

[fairladyZ]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Tannehill, Rodgers, rg3, freeman, Luck and Gabbert are the guys that I see as having arm strength that is at a similar level to Geno.

agree with that list except rodgers and luck.. Both those guys could give stafford and cutler runs for their money on arm strength.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I might be inclined to retract my top ten comment and push it back to top 15 as it sits...with work on his lower body, there is no reason to think he can't jump up one group and be in the op ten because I don't think there is a big difference between his arm and Rodgers'.

Show me te guys on that list that CLEARLY have a stronger arm than Geno.

When Geno isn't using his legs correctly - these guys are all harder throwers than Geno:

Tannehill
Brady
Flacco
Weeden
Rothlisberger
Luck
Gabbert
Eli
RG3
Cutler
Stafford
Rodgers
Newton
Freeman
Kaepernick

I think you're mixing his potential with what he actually does.

He has the talent to put himself above 1/2 the guys on that list, but when he's arm throwing and not driving with his legs, he's just another Bradford.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

When Geno isn't using his legs correctly - these guys are all harder throwers than Geno:

Tannehill
Brady
Flacco
Weeden
Rothlisberger
Luck
Gabbert
Eli
RG3
Cutler
Stafford
Rodgers
Newton
Freeman
Kaepernick

I think you're mixing his potential with what he actually does.

He has the talent to put himself above 1/2 the guys on that list, but when he's arm throwing and not driving with his legs, he's just another Bradford.

Those things (throwing without proper mechanics from top to bottom) can be said about nearly every single quarterback in the NFL. I think it's fair to say that without tweaks, he is top half of the league in arm strength. Now, should we break down his accuracy so we can find out where he comes in as an overall thrower?

I probably overrate him there, too.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Those things can be said about nearly every single quarterback in the NFL. I think it's fair to say that without tweaks, he is top half of the league in arm strength. Now, should we break down his accuracy so we can find out where he comes in as an overall thrower?

I probably overrate him there, too.

When he flips his hips and doesn't drive? No, he certainly isn't.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by O.city

When he flips his hips and doesn't drive? No, he certainly isn't.

Again, this can be said of any quarterback that gets lazy with the fundamentals and mechanics.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Those things (throwing without proper mechanics from top to bottom) can be said about nearly every single quarterback in the NFL. I think it's fair to say that without tweaks, he is top half of the league in arm strength. Now, should we break down his accuracy so we can find out where he comes in as an overall thrower?

I probably overrate him there, too.

And I think that's all I said - that when his feet aren't under him, he's got an average arm; Bradford-esqe.

As to his accuracy, I think he's at 8-10 in the league but man that's a hard thing to compare. Coming out of college, Bradford was the most accurate passer I saw in years. I thought he would be a guy that would come into the NFL and be among the top 5 most precise passers out there.

As it turns out, his accuracy is above average, but not elite. Because of that (and some other guys I overrated a little bit), I've started tempering my thoughts on a college QBs accuracy until I see it in action at the next level. I think his is superb, but it's hard to bet much on it.

As a pure thrower, he looks outstanding to me. The question will be how he reacts when the bullets are flying and how he handles teaching, because he does need a little bit.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

And I think that's all I said - that when his feet aren't under him, he's got an average arm; Bradford-esqe.

As to his accuracy, I think he's at 8-10 in the league but man that's a hard thing to compare. Coming out of college, Bradford was the most accurate passer I saw in years. I thought he would be a guy that would come into the NFL and be among the top 5 most precise passers out there.

As it turns out, his accuracy is above average, but not elite. Because of that (and some other guys I overrated a little bit), I've started tempering my thoughts on a college QBs accuracy until I see it in action at the next level. I think his is superb, but it's hard to bet much on it.

As a pure thrower, he looks outstanding to me. The question will be how he reacts when the bullets are flying and how he handles teaching, because he does need a little bit.

I'd love to read a post draft interview where they (Dorsey, Reid) admit that they had Geno #1 all along and that Clark hired a cast of QB specialists to help identify te top guy and make the best effort possible to help him develop his skills.

[fairladyZ]

i have yet to see him make an aaron rogers throw. Even in all the gifs and videos you guys post i haven't seen a rocket arm like rodgers. He's got a strong arm but it's nowhere near rodgers. Maybe with footwork he can come close but i still don't think he'll have that strong of an arm as rodgers or the elites in the NFL