Soooooo... Dorsey is a butt****ing moron, right?

[RealSNR]

All these CBs available at the top of the 2nd round.

The 33rd and 35th overall picks.

He takes Denzel Ward at #4 overall.

Nice ****ing job, you prick. Oh, and by the way, YOU DRAFTED BAKER MAYFIELD #1 OVERALL YOU CHOAD.

I'm beginning to think Eric Fisher wasn't just "There wasn't anybody good!" It was just Dorsey trying to be smarter than everybody else.

Haven't seen Veach make any draft picks yet, but knocking on wood, he's gotta be better than Dorsey, right?

[nychief]

This is a butt****ing stupid thread.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by Buckweath

Some fans and analysts were talking of the Chiefs as the best top to bottom roster in the league not too long ago when Dorsey was still in charge. You think that was all Reid and Veach, yeah right.

And they got one WC win to show for it. Think talk of that wasn't the most accurate.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by staylor26

But they already potentially had that in Shane Ray. I know we bag on KnowMo about him, but Ray still has a lot of upside as a pass rusher.

13 sacks in 3 years. He’s always hurt and he’s small against the run. He’s not even as established as Dee Ford. There’s a reason Denver hasn’t used the 5th year option on him.

It’s okay to acknowledge a rival team got a great player, even if it is the ****ing Broncos.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by RunKC

13 sacks in 3 years. He’s always hurt and he’s small against the run. He’s not even as established as Dee Ford. There’s a reason Denver hasn’t used the 5th year option on him.

It’s okay to acknowledge a rival team got a great player, even if it is the ****ing Broncos.

The Broncos got a great prospect.

He could always bust. There’s no such thing as a sure thing in the draft.

I remember how pumped the Jets fans were to grab Vernon Gholston. Or remember Aaron Curry from Wake? Dee Milliner from Bama?

Yes, it seems like a great player fell into their laps, but like every player in the draft, it’s not a sure thing.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by RunKC

13 sacks in 3 years. He’s always hurt and he’s small against the run. He’s not even as established as Dee Ford. There’s a reason Denver hasn’t used the 5th year option on him.

It’s okay to acknowledge a rival team got a great player, even if it is the ****ing Broncos.

It seems like you just aren’t getting my point. I think your vaginal bleeding is messing with your reading comprehension.

I clearly said Chubb will be a great player overall. My point was that he doesn’t have the upside of an elite pass rusher.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

The Broncos got a great prospect.

He could always bust. There’s no such thing as a sure thing in the draft.

I remember how pumped the Jets fans were to grab Vernon Gholston. Or remember Aaron Curry from Wake? Dee Milliner from Bama?

Yes, it seems like a great player fell into their laps, but like every player in the draft, it’s not a sure thing.

Shane Ray....

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by staylor26

It seems like you just aren’t getting my point. I think your vaginal bleeding is messing with your reading comprehension.

I clearly said Chubb will be a great player overall. My point was that he doesn’t have the upside of an elite pass rusher.

We shall see. Lot of people think differently and his tape was monstrous.

I said Chubb was their best scenario days before the draft and I stand by it. Denver got a lot better in their pass rush and that’s not good for us.

[nicksdad]

i have been a fan this squad for almost fifty years and i don't recall anyone we have ever had who was a better drafter than Dorsey. a nightmare on contract issues but a very good drafter. of course, if you want to post only his defensive picks and not the picks on offense you can create an argument ,although a misleading one. of course another way to make a misleading argument is to decide retroactively , and without any evidence, that reid/veach are somehow responsible for all of the good dorsey picks, but that somehow dorsey was miraculously in charge of the failed picks. finally , if he is "bad" because his picks left Chubb for the Donks i would suggest that he should not be making his selections with the Chiefs , or us , their fanbase in mind. we dont have to hate everyone who leaves

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by nicksdad

i have been a fan this squad for almost fifty years and i don't recall anyone we have ever had who was a better drafter than Dorsey. a nightmare on contract issues but a very good drafter. of course, if you want to post only his defensive picks and not the picks on offense you can create an argument ,although a misleading one. of course another way to make a misleading argument is to decide retroactively , and without any evidence, that reid/veach are somehow responsible for all of the good dorsey picks, but that somehow dorsey was miraculously in charge of the failed picks. finally , if he is "bad" because his picks left Chubb for the Donks i would suggest that he should not be making his selections with the Chiefs , or us , their fanbase in mind. we dont have to hate everyone who leaves

Carl Peterson was far superior in drafting than Dorsey.

[oldman]

I think Dorsey was a good draft GM, he just wasn't very good at 2nd contracts. A lot of people are still butthurt about Fisher, but, given the other ways he could have gone, it looks like a pretty fair bit of drafting to me. There's no denying he was a master at picking up other teams castoffs and making lemonade out of lemons.

[nicksdad]

so peterson drafted more good players in his sixteen years than dorsey did in his five. probably , but that doesnt prove much does it?

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by nicksdad

so peterson drafted more good players in his sixteen years than dorsey did in his five. probably , but that doesnt prove much does it?

Peterson's first 5 years of drafting is far superior.

[Beef Supreme]

I kinda get the Mayfield pick. It's kinda about the attitude and wanting to be there. The other QBs had an attitude of, "yeah, I'll play for Cleveland, I'll play for anybody." Mayfield had an attitude of, "**** yes. I want to play for Cleveland. I want to go where nobody succeeds and shove that shit up everyone's ass. I've been doing it my whole life. How about a little **** you attitude to match your new offensive coordinator."


Dorsey never gave a shit what anyone else thought was a reach.

[Shields68]

Originally Posted by jjchieffan

Yeah. You know there were calls coming in for pick 4. He should have traded down since he wanted Ward. Maybe he was afraid that the Donks would take him? IDK. But I still wouldn't have taken Ward at 4.

He was not scared of the Donks taking him. The problem with a trade down was that teams 6-10 did not want a QB. So they do not want to give up much to move up and if you go to 11 or 12 you do not get Ward.

[BlackHelicopters]

I don’t care what Dorsey does. Can someone tell me why I care?