**** Official 2012 Big 12 Football Thread ****

[RustShack]

I'm so jacked for this season. While odds are pretty good we still wont make a BCS Bowl, this could be one of the best seasons ISU has ever had in football. We will also have a great basketball team too. Plus the Chiefs are looking up, oh baby what a year this could be for me!

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by RustShack

I'm so jacked for this season. While odds are pretty good we still wont make a BCS Bowl, this could be one of the best seasons ISU has ever had in football. We will also have a great basketball team too. Plus the Chiefs are looking up, oh baby what a year this could be for me!

Sorry to burst your bubble, but ISU isn't even making a bowl game.

Vegas puts their win total at 4.5.

[Saulbadguy]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Sorry to burst your bubble, but ISU isn't even making a bowl game.

Vegas puts their win total at 4.5.

They will win 6 games.

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

They will win 6 games.

This is essentially the college version of the Chiefs, great defense and great running game this year with an abundance of weapons at WR. It all depends on the QB, and even Jantz is more talented than Cassel.

[KC native]

Originally Posted by RustShack

This is essentially the college version of the Chiefs, great defense and great running game this year with an abundance of weapons at WR. It all depends on the QB, and even Jantz is more talented than Cassel.

I have seen it mentioned that you do this every year for ISU. They'll be lucky to 6 games,

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by KC native

I have seen it mentioned that you do this every year for ISU. They'll be lucky to 6 games,

Yeah I've said it the last two years, and the team has been better every year under CPR. We can now compete with anyone we play, instead of just knowing we will get blown out by Oklahoma and Texas(among others) every year.

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by RustShack

This is essentially the college version of the Chiefs, great defense and great running game this year with an abundance of weapons at WR. It all depends on the QB, and even Jantz is more talented than Cassel.

Was talking about how I thought the Chiefs had the worst D Line in football in another thread and am still waiting to be proven wrong.

Why does everyone think the Chiefs have a "great defense"? It's actually quite bad.

*sry not point to the Cyclones*

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by Wickedson

Was talking about how I thought the Chiefs had the worst D Line in football in another thread and am still waiting to be proven wrong.

Why does everyone think the Chiefs have a "great defense"? It's actually quite bad.

*sry not point to the Cyclones*

Well our two DE's(Chiefs) were two of the best in the NFL in terms of stopping the run, and we drafted one of the most talented NT's in the league to fill the third spot. The DL's main job is to take up blockers for the LB's to make plays, and to stop the run. Poe is a huge upgrade from size and talent alone. His job is completely different than it was in college too, with size and speed alone he can take up two or three blockers on any given play allowing Dorsey or Jackson to only be single blocked a lot more often allowing our DL to also get to the QB more which is more of a luxery in our scheme. Poe can collapse the pocket, something we have seriously lacked.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

They will win 6 games.

I will take the under.

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

I will take the under.

I hope you put everything you own on it, because you will lose.

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Sorry to burst your bubble, but ISU isn't even making a bowl game.

Vegas puts their win total at 4.5.

I think we were projected to win two the last few years. I'm not too worried since this is the first time Iowa State has actually looked like a B12 team with all the size and speed across the board.