Chiefs So Cassel is clearly the wrong guy, but what should Pioli have done? - Page 3

lcarus · 10-09-2012, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Crush

What should Pioli have done?

Die of AIDS.

**** the Patriots and the "Tree."

Im with you on this

**the Talking Can** · 10-09-2012, 04:40 PM

and the pats fan show up....

Crush · 10-09-2012, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

and the pats fan show up....

They have to defend everyone that was associated with their shitty franchise. It's in their DNA.

Amnorix · 10-09-2012, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

and the pats fan show up....

Like I'm rare around here....?

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Originally Posted by Crush

They have to defend everyone that was associated with their shitty franchise. It's in their DNA.

Nope, don't care that Pioli's job is in danger. I think his HC hiring decisions have been questionable and that four years is a fair shake. if the team is truly horrible -- say 5-11 or worse -- then the GM could definitely take the fall for that after four years.

I'm just wondering what the "answer" at QB is, since that seems to be the biggest strike against him.

acesn8s · 10-09-2012, 04:40 PM

He should done whatever it took to get Luck or RGIII.

10-09-2012, 04:41 PM

Cassel probably wasn't the worst decision in the world. Clearly he put together a strong 2010 in terms of statistics. But when it's so clearly not working, pull the plug. Obviously the last 2 or 3 coaches and coordinators haven't believed in Cassel based on the leash imposed. Equally obvious is the direction from the top dog that he plays or else. I think that's the crux of the matter. Dude won't come off his $60,000,000 bet.

Amnorix · 10-09-2012, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

Cassel probably wasn't the worst decision in the world. Clearly he put together a strong 2010 in terms of statistics. But when it's so clearly not working, pull the plug. Obviously the last 2 or 3 coaches and coordinators haven't believed in Cassel based on the leash imposed. Equally obvious is the direction from the top dog that he plays or else. I think that's the crux of the matter. Dude won't come off his $60,000,000 bet.

Yeah, that is a major problem IMHO. Not keeping Orton made no sense to me. Some might say he was worried about creating a QB controversy, and I get that, but if your QB doesn't have the confidence in himself to raise his play in the face of competition for the job, then he probably isn't the right guy anyway!

If Pioli intentionally engineered it as "Cassel or Moe, Larry or Curly", then that's a big strike against him IMHO. I have no idea what Orton was looking for, or what other backup options there were, but that would definitely not fly in my book if he did that on purpose.

**ChiefGator** · 10-09-2012, 04:42 PM

Well, just this year he could have traded up for Tannehill, or stayed put and taken Osweiler, Foles, or Cousins. That would not have helped us this year, but we would have a young gun at least to learn under Zorn.

In 2011 he could have picked Andy Dalton, or Kapernick.

After a couple really bad years, the last couple years haven't been that bad in terms of QBs. And this year should be decent again.

beach tribe · 10-10-2012, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefGator

Well, just this year he could have traded up for Tannehill, or stayed put and taken Osweiler, Foles, or Cousins. That would not have helped us this year, but we would have a young gun at least to learn under Zorn.

In 2011 he could have picked Andy Dalton, or Kapernick.

After a couple really bad years, the last couple years haven't been that bad in terms of QBs. And this year should be decent again.

This. He should have at least taken a shot on one of the QBs in the past draft. It would have taken some of the heat off of him, and would have given us all hope that there was some kind of young option. Maybe they still believe that Stanzi is their young option. I think it's about time to find out. I would bet ANYTHING that he looks better than Casshole.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-09-2012, 04:42 PM

I appreciate the Chiefs swinging for Cassel, even if they missed.

I would have been okay if the Chiefs kept swinging but kept missing.

It is unacceptable to be oblivious for 4 years that you missed on Cassel, and not even TRY to take a swing at a guy you believe could compete for a starting job.

**The Bad Guy** · 10-09-2012, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I appreciate the Chiefs swinging for Cassel, even if they missed.

I would have been okay if the Chiefs kept swinging but kept missing.

It is unacceptable to be oblivious for 4 years that you missed on Cassel, and not even TRY to take a swing at a guy you believe could compete for a starting job.

They didn't swing for Cassel. Pioli bunted and then instead of evaluating for the franchise year, he decided to extend a guy who had little to no track record.

That's ****ing blind bullshit. That's not swinging.

teedubya · 10-09-2012, 04:44 PM

Man, I wish Bernard Pollard hadn't injured Brady... thus, giving Cassel his chance... SON OF A BITCH!!

**the Talking Can** · 10-09-2012, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by teedubya

Man, I wish Bernard Pollard hadn't injured Brady... thus, giving Cassel his chance... SON OF A BITCH!!

i wish pollard had taken out their fan base...

and where is that one dumb pats fan who spent the last four years lecturing us for not understanding pioli's genious and cassel's awesomeness?

he never comes around anymore...weird

-King- · 10-09-2012, 04:46 PM

I don't exactly HATE Pioli, because I think we have a good team right now, but he should have cut Cassel after last season. That's what pisses me off most about him.

**mlyonsd** · 10-09-2012, 04:51 PM

I don't think you can put aside the Orton option if you're asking what really should have been done.

Not that he was the answer but it was clearly evident last year he was the better QB of the two.

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mlyonsd Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Spink, SD Casino cash: $1543762	I don't think you can put aside the Orton option if you're asking what really should have been done. Not that he was the answer but it was clearly evident last year he was the better QB of the two.
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