Well, We Probably Should Have a Brian Orakpo Thread...

['Hamas' Jenkins]

If we keep playing like this, we won't be in a position to draft Stafford. It's not good or bad, it is what it is.

With that being said, a genetic freak like Rak daddy would go a long way towards fixing the ills of this defense. He's not as long as Michael Johnson, but he's fast, explosive, and incredibly strong. Plus, he's taken boxing lessons, so Krumrie will love him with his ****tard slap-fight drill.

There could be worse selections in the 3-7 range where we will most likely choose.

[ChiefsCountry]

We dont need no stinking DE - we need to take Oher in the first, Herman Johnson in the second and Loadholt in the third. Build that OL baby.

[Zouk]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

So since he ALMOST won a SB with the Jets, that counts for something?

No wonder you love Herm.

You would have fired Belichick in Cleveland, Dungy in Tampa, and Coughlin in Jacksonville. They were proven failures, right? No need to try and look at what coaches actually had on their team and what they did with them. Parcells took over a 1-15 team in 1997 and had them nearly in the Super Bowl 2 years later - but who cares, counts for nothing!

[cdcox]

Originally Posted by Zouk

You would have fired Belichick in Cleveland, Dungy in Tampa, and Coughlin in Jacksonville. They were proven failures, right? No need to try and look at what coaches actually had on their team and what they did with them. Parcells took over a 1-15 team in 1997 and had them nearly in the Super Bowl 2 years later - but who cares, counts for nothing!

Well, firing Dungy in Tampa and hiring Gruden in his place was actually the right move.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by Zouk

You would have fired Belichick in Cleveland, Dungy in Tampa, and Coughlin in Jacksonville. They were proven failures, right? No need to try and look at what coaches actually had on their team and what they did with them. Parcells took over a 1-15 team in 1997 and had them nearly in the Super Bowl 2 years later - but who cares, counts for nothing!

You obviously have your goals on almost winning a title.

I set my sights on WINNING one.

They don't give out Lombardi trophies for ALMOST winning one.

[Toad]

I respect Rich Gosselin of the Dallas Morning News. He lays out prototypical measurements by position in the article link below.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...n.3d58630.html

He believes the prototype for DE is:
Height=6'4"
Weight=270
Speed=4.6
Key trait is speed on the weak side and strength on the strong side.

Orakpo's measurements are:
6'4"
260
4.63 (unofficial)
Combine will tell, but it seems Orakpo has ample speed and strength.

I've seen probably 4-5 Longhorn games this year and my only knock on him is he got caught inside on a few running plays (2 of which were in the TX Tech loss).

I do like the fact that he comes from a long line of Longhorn D linemen lineage. In fact, Big 12 in general has put out some great D linemen.

[chiefzilla1501]

I still think it's interesting he said nothing about wingspan. Anyone know?That is key to shedding blocks and one of the main reasons Freeney is so successful.

Originally Posted by Toad

I respect Rich Gosselin of the Dallas Morning News. He lays out prototypical measurements by position in the article link below.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...n.3d58630.html

He believes the prototype for DE is:
Height=6'4"
Weight=270
Speed=4.6
Key trait is speed on the weak side and strength on the strong side.

Orakpo's measurements are:
6'4"
260
4.63 (unofficial)
Combine will tell, but it seems Orakpo has ample speed and strength.

I've seen probably 4-5 Longhorn games this year and my only knock on him is he got caught inside on a few running plays (2 of which were in the TX Tech loss).

I do like the fact that he comes from a long line of Longhorn D linemen lineage. In fact, Big 12 in general has put out some great D linemen.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Zouk

He was very close to going to the Super Bowl with the Jets in 1998. That amounted to something.

They got throttled in the AFC Ch. game.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Basileus777

Going to the AFC championship game is not nothing and its not mediocrity. Parcells didn't win a championship with the Jets or Cowboys, but he did build up those teams and make them legitimate contenders. People talk about Parcell's ability to build teams because that is what did in NJ and Dallas. If you want to criticize Parcells for not winning a Superbowl without Belichick that's one thing, but you can't really say he accomplished nothing.

How about this.

He's never won a playoff game without Belichick.

[suds79]

All this DE talk will be a moot point if we can land Terrell Suggs as a FA next year.

That would free us up to go after Rey Maualuga.

Then the D would be getting somewhere.

[Toad]

Julius Peppers is UFA as well, but I'd actually like to see us going FA MLB and draft a DE. There are a couple of good young UFA MLB next year (provided they do not get tagged) in Dansby (AZ) and Vilma (NO).

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by suds79

All this DE talk will be a moot point if we can land Terrell Suggs as a FA next year.

That would free us up to go after Rey Maualuga.

Then the D would be getting somewhere.

I don't know if I could hate this idea any more than I currently do.

[tk13]

We need a rushing DE and MLB. Our focus this offseason must be Hugh Douglas and Jeremiah Trotter.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Toad

Julius Peppers is UFA as well, but I'd actually like to see us going FA MLB and draft a DE. There are a couple of good young UFA MLB next year (provided they do not get tagged) in Dansby (AZ) and Vilma (NO).

Dansby was tagged, good luck prying him away. He's also much more of a downhill player as a 3-4 OLB than he would be as a Mike linebacker in a C2.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by tk13

We need a rushing DE and MLB. Our focus this offseason must be Hugh Douglas and Jeremiah Trotter.

[tk13]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

It's the circle of life.