Chris Weinke (IMG Academy) Talks with Danny Parkins about upcoming QB class.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

I bet 100M CC money at the combine that won't be a big issue or that he proves it's not. That he will show plenty of zip on his passes.

I'm going to be surprised if he throws at the combine.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Coogs

I'm going to be surprised if he throws at the combine.

I'm going to be pissed if he doesn't.

He can't just sit back and dodge every attempt he has to prove that he's worth that draft pick.

I would honestly start to question his confidence and leadership ability if he doesn't throw at the combine. A great leader needs to have that swagger and confidence that he's the biggest chocolately peen on the block and if Smith isn't willing to prove that, you have another flag popping up, IMO.

I don't like that he didn't play at the SR bowl, but I understand it (too many things can determine whether or not you do well to really be a fair measure). However, if he also refuses to throw at the combine, when it's just him and God controlling shit, then he's pretty much proving himself a bit of a coward at that point.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I'm going to be pissed if he doesn't.

He can't just sit back and dodge every attempt he has to prove that he's worth that draft pick.

I would honestly start to question his confidence and leadership ability if he doesn't throw at the combine. A great leader needs to have that swagger and confidence that he's the biggest chocolately peen on the block and if Smith isn't willing to prove that, you have another flag popping up, IMO.

I don't like that he didn't play at the SR bowl, but I understand it (too many things can determine whether or not you do well to really be a fair measure). However, if he also refuses to throw at the combine, when it's just him and God controlling shit, then he's pretty much proving himself a bit of a coward at that point.

There have been a lot of QB's not throw at Indy and wait until their schools Pro Day.

And while I agreee with you, I am not going to be shocked if he waits, nor will I hold it against him. But I will be disappointed.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I'm going to be pissed if he doesn't.

He can't just sit back and dodge every attempt he has to prove that he's worth that draft pick.

I would honestly start to question his confidence and leadership ability if he doesn't throw at the combine. A great leader needs to have that swagger and confidence that he's the biggest chocolately peen on the block and if Smith isn't willing to prove that, you have another flag popping up, IMO.

I don't like that he didn't play at the SR bowl, but I understand it (too many things can determine whether or not you do well to really be a fair measure). However, if he also refuses to throw at the combine, when it's just him and God controlling shit, then he's pretty much proving himself a bit of a coward at that point.

WHy? alot of top picks have private Pro Days now in March.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

WHy? alot of top picks have private Pro Days now in March.

Uh...whuh?

I'm pretty sure I answered the 'why'. As to my reasoning for it, 'a lot of top picks' aren't quarterbacks and those that are aren't vying for the #1 overall pick in a draft where there is so much debate over the consensus top QB available.

It's not terribly instructive to look to what other prospects do, IMO. What Geno should do is show the confidence in himself and his ability and go throw at the damn combine, when he'll be able to go stand shoulder to shoulder with the people he's claiming he's better than and prove it.

[fairladyZ]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Uh...whuh?

I'm pretty sure I answered the 'why'. As to my reasoning for it, 'a lot of top picks' aren't quarterbacks and those that are aren't vying for the #1 overall pick in a draft where there is so much debate over the consensus top QB available.

It's not terribly instructive to look to what other prospects do, IMO. What Geno should do is show the confidence in himself and his ability and go throw at the damn combine, when he'll be able to go stand shoulder to shoulder with the people he's claiming he's better than and prove it.

I like your posts and very informative on things you've seen with geno and realist about his flaws (as opposed to others). I've seen much of the same that you've seen with his arm lacking velocity because of his footwork.

I'm curious your opinion on his mental aspect though? I know people say he's heavy into watching tape and making his game better, and that he's a true leader. I haven't watched much of geno except for K-State game, Pinstripe bowl. I want to know what your take is on his leadership skills and his mental makeup for the game? In the couple games i've watched against good defenses and being harassed he seemed to unravel on the field and on the sidelines. Also got reports of him being one of the most selfish players on the field. You think he'll impress? you think all these red flags popping up are smoke or you think there is warrant there?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by fairladyZ

I like your posts and very informative on things you've seen with geno and realist about his flaws (as opposed to others). I've seen much of the same that you've seen with his arm lacking velocity because of his footwork.

I'm curious your opinion on his mental aspect though? I know people say he's heavy into watching tape and making his game better, and that he's a true leader. I haven't watched much of geno except for K-State game, Pinstripe bowl. I want to know what your take is on his leadership skills and his mental makeup for the game? In the couple games i've watched against good defenses and being harassed he seemed to unravel on the field and on the sidelines. Also got reports of him being one of the most selfish players on the field. You think he'll impress? you think all these red flags popping up are smoke or you think there is warrant there?

I try to steer clear of that stuff. I don't hear this kid in the huddle. I don't see him watch film.

I see that his teammates seem to enjoy playing with him. I know guys love to play for someone that will stand in the face of a rush, plant his foot and fire - something Geno's always willing to do. I saw him keep bringing his offense on the field and attack every time his defense failed and I heard him fall on grenades for them. I also saw him have a bit of a petulant bitch streak in the Pinstripe Bowl that I wasn't a fan of.

So in the end, if I try to say I know what he is as a leader, I'm kinda talking out my ass. But I do like to get as much information as I can get and if he doesn't throw at the combine, it suggests to me someone that's not quite as confident in himself as I'd like him to be.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I try to steer clear of that stuff. I don't hear this kid in the huddle. I don't see him watch film.

I see that his teammates seem to enjoy playing with him. I know guys love to play for someone that will stand in the face of a rush, plant his foot and fire - something Geno's always willing to do. I saw him keep bringing his offense on the field and attack every time his defense failed and I heard him fall on grenades for them. I also saw him have a bit of a petulant bitch streak in the Pinstripe Bowl that I wasn't a fan of.

So in the end, if I try to say I know what he is as a leader, I'm kinda talking out my ass. But I do like to get as much information as I can get and if he doesn't throw at the combine, it suggests to me someone that's not quite as confident in himself as I'd like him to be.

I saw that outburst in the Pinstripe Bowl too.

How would you feel if you had geared up for a team that you had never beaten and your coach decided to go into a shell and play to lose?

He had every right to be mad. He should have handled it better.

That outburst to me is something ALL kids do when they get frustrated. It will go away as he ages, probably without ANY coaching at all. It's just part of growing up.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Uh...whuh?

I'm pretty sure I answered the 'why'. As to my reasoning for it, 'a lot of top picks' aren't quarterbacks and those that are aren't vying for the #1 overall pick in a draft where there is so much debate over the consensus top QB available.

It's not terribly instructive to look to what other prospects do, IMO. What Geno should do is show the confidence in himself and his ability and go throw at the damn combine, when he'll be able to go stand shoulder to shoulder with the people he's claiming he's better than and prove it.

You kind of beat me to the punch.

What I was going to say was this:

Yes, it's true. Most of the top QB prospects don't throw at the combine.

However, to me this year is VERY similar to the year Cam Newton went #1 overall.

People everywhere were talking and mocking Marcell Dareus and Bowers and Tyron Smith, etc.

That year Newton threw at the combine and people were all wondering why, you know, because the top guys never throw.

Worked out well for Newton, and even though his performance was so-so, he quickly solidified himself as the #1 overall pick.