Andy Reid on Metro Sports...

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

You're looking for reasons to NOT believe just as much as people who are looking for reasons to believe.

Bullshit

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Reid saying that they might stay or might not stay where they are means nothing. It's just coach speak that we here from every coach/GM every year.

Uh, no.

Coaches with the top pick in the draft that NEED a QB don't play games.

Originally Posted by Detoxing

His description of what he wants in a QB doesn't necessarily mean Geno, but it does imply that these "leftover" QB's isn't what Reid is after. Imo, his description of what he's after in a QB is more telling than "i might or might not move back"

You're misinterpreting his words.

That is NOT what he said, at all. He said that footwork, throwing, etc. don't mean much to him. What DOES matter is that the QB elevates the play of those around him.

Again, he also said very clearly that he'll do what's best for the Chiefs, whether that's staying at #1 or moving back.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

That is NOT what he said, at all. He said that footwork, throwing, etc. don't mean much to him. What DOES matter is that the QB elevates the play of those around him.

Again, he also said very clearly that he'll do what's best for the Chiefs, whether that's staying at #1 or moving back.

Bold is not accurate. He was alluding to all of the particulars that add up to making a QB effective. But he was giving an otherwise reductive answer that he wants a QB to win games and elevate the play of others.

He was being purposefully pointed because he noted that he was going to (paraphrasing) "make this quick."

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Bold is not accurate. He was alluding to all of the particulars that add up to making a QB effective. But he was giving an otherwise reductive answer that he wants a QB to win games and elevate the play of others.

He was being purposefully pointed because he noted that he was going to (paraphrasing) "make this quick."

Here's exactly what he said:

The skill that is most important is that he wins football games.

The great ones makes everyone around them better. They make everyone's game come up.

Look, I'm making it short and sweet for you. We're not talking about the intangibles that go into it, we're not talking about the reads on time, we're not talking about the footwork, the arm strength, the hands, all those things.

The bottom line is that guy doesn't have to the prettiest, but does he give you an opportunity to win football games and does he allow his players around him to raise their game up and go do that.

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Bullshit



Uh, no.

Coaches with the top pick in the draft that NEED a QB don't play games.



You're misinterpreting his words.

That is NOT what he said, at all. He said that footwork, throwing, etc. don't mean much to him. What DOES matter is that the QB elevates the play of those around him.

Again, he also said very clearly that he'll do what's best for the Chiefs, whether that's staying at #1 or moving back.

1st, no it's not BS. You've been entertaining the idea that the Chiefs may not draft a QB in the 1st since Reid has been hired. You've said so yourself.

2nd, coaches don't give coach speak on who they'll draft? Especially this early? Yes, they do **** around plenty. Especially in February. The fact that he stated, "hey i might stay, i might move down" means nothing in February. Nothing.

3rd, im not sure what you're arguing here. I stated that he isn't describing Alex Smith or Matt Flynn at all. Do you believe Alex Smith a is QB who elevates the play of those around him? Once again, from his description, he's not talking about any of the QB's n this F/A class.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

"Whether we stay there OR trade back".

That certainly doesn't scream "QB #1 overall".

It doesn't scream anything.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Dave

It doesn't scream anything.

Exactly.

[Ace Gunner]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

"Whether we stay there OR trade back".

That certainly doesn't scream "QB #1 overall".

agreed. there are a few places during the conversation of QB that Andy Reid seemed defensive or on the offensive for not taking a QB with that #1 pick.

When he was asked whether the new trends of exclusive QB pro day/workouts present evaluation difficulties, Reid started by saying "well, listen" and generally evasively answered that line of questions.

I'm going with the trade scenario. They will try to trade that #1 or #2 pick. I think they could trade up with the #2 pick, I doubt anyone will take the #1 in any scenario.

If Barkley falls to the 2nd round, they might grab him. My only concern about Barkley is he has slow slow hips -- he is not gonna do well when protection breaks down because he can't scramble worth shit. But, if you protect him he can run Reid's short route WCO with success, I believe.

Hate to say it, I doubt Geno Smith becomes a Chief. In fact I believe Reid is going to roll out Matty C during preseason and depending on competition, the "good football player" could be the starter next season. Reid will experience matty's fail for himself. Then Stanzi or whoever they bring in will take over.

rinse/repeat.

At least, the new staff has a rep for the QB position. Not sure this wouldn't be negated if they were to roll that failure of a QB out though. Guess we'll see.

[Messier]

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls

agreed. there are a few places during the conversation of QB that Andy Reid seemed defensive or on the offensive for not taking a QB with that #1 pick.

When he was asked whether the new trends of exclusive QB pro day/workouts present evaluation difficulties, Reid started by saying "well, listen" and generally evasively answered that line of questions.

I'm going with the trade scenario. They will try to trade that #1 or #2 pick. I think they could trade up with the #2 pick, I doubt anyone will take the #1 in any scenario.

If Barkley falls to the 2nd round, they might grab him. My only concern about Barkley is he has slow slow hips -- he is not gonna do well when protection breaks down because he can't scramble worth shit. But, if you protect him he can run Reid's short route WCO with success, I believe.

Hate to say it, I doubt Geno Smith becomes a Chief. In fact I believe Reid is going to roll out Matty C during preseason and depending on competition, the "good football player" could be the starter next season. Reid will experience matty's fail for himself. Then Stanzi or whoever they bring in will take over.

rinse/repeat.

At least, the new staff has a rep for the QB position. Not sure this wouldn't be negated if they were to roll that failure of a QB out though. Guess we'll see.

Well listen, you've got some great takes here, and seem to be taking Reid's comments and running with them to the logical conclusion.

[Ace Gunner]

Originally Posted by Messier

Well listen, you've got some great takes here, and seem to be taking Reid's comments and running with them to the logical conclusion.

well listen. I listen. I know you listen. we all listen.

do you hear that sound? I hear it. it's that sound the goal post makes when it's hit with a matty c pass.

it's like a gonging sound. but it is muted. miffed at the notion why anyone would throw a forward pass at it's upright metal. it wants to sing out "why? why you do this?". but it stops singing after "wh".

[RustShack]

Did Geno win a lot of games? ... Stanzi did

[B14ckmon]

Originally Posted by RustShack

Did Geno win a lot of games? ... Stanzi did

Stanzi made Gabbert look like Joe Montana in comparison in the Insight Bowl. He was awful.

[BradBigglestein]

Andy Reid loves to move around in drafts, so I wouldn't completely rule out trading down for you guys. If you look at Reid's history in early rounds of drafts, he loves to move up and down.

Draft days are going to be exciting for you guys. If anyone here is a person who just tunes in around the approximate time the Chiefs are supposed to pick, that isn't going to work with Reid. You have to watch the whole draft, because he's always itching to make a move.

[BlackHelicopters]

Reid is Stanzi's uncle.

[Tribal Warfare]

Cassel's jersey still in the background of the set

[Micjones]

Reid can't move back without a trade partner.
Who's he going to trade the #1 pick to?