Chiefs Romeo's defensive scheme has got to go... - Page 2

**petegz28** · 09-16-2012, 08:00 PM

It's old, it's soft and it doesn't work anymore. Did you see the Bills getting pressure up the middle? Might that have something to do with them actually trying to get pressure instead of just "eating up blockers"?

We keep hearing it's the job of our d-line to consume blockers so the LB's can be free. Free to do what? I am a fan of the 3-4 but not this style of the 3-4. We are never going to get consistent pressure on a QB at all. Teams take Hali out of the game and their QB has all day to sit back.

Meanwhile our "free" LB's are getting toasted over the middle or just plain leaving it wide open.

Chiefs Pantalones · 09-16-2012, 08:12 PM

I think our talent is fine, we need a more aggressive scheme. Berry is a beast that is being used oddly. Houston, Hali, we could do much more with those guys. Everyone.

**notorious** · 09-16-2012, 08:14 PM

Sitting back and playing react defense is ****ing stupid in today's NFL.

You have to dictate the game with aggression. **** this franchise.

**AustinChief** · 09-16-2012, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

Phillips 3-4 would suit this team much better. Our entire DL is full of former penetrating lineman. And now we ask them to eat up space. Not working.

DJ wouldn't fit in that system as well, but his soft ass could learn.

This and more. I would be FAR happier with the Phillips 3-4.

**Bowser** · 09-16-2012, 08:15 PM

Any read and react defense is going to suck in today's NFL.

The Niners and Texans have the type of 3-4 we should be running.

**Bowser** · 09-16-2012, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

Sitting back and playing react defense is ****ing stupid in today's NFL.

You have to dictate the game with aggression. **** this franchise.

Great minds, and all of that.....

FAX · 09-16-2012, 08:15 PM

Romeo's scheme is awesome just as long as the enemy offense leaves their tight end at home.

FAX

**petegz28** · 09-16-2012, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

Sitting back and playing react defense is ****ing stupid in today's NFL.

You have to dictate the game with aggression. **** this franchise.

Exactly. What I loved about Marty's defenses is the entire mentality was to get into the backfield and cause problems. Make the QB move, **** up his timing. I remember Marty saying once his scheme was simple; line up, beat the man in front of you and head to the QB, if they hand it off then tackle the RB on the way there.

Black Bob · 09-16-2012, 08:16 PM

He's blitzing... it's just not the same way as last year. He's trying to get Berry back there and trying to get Poe one on one. He's just not blitzing the same way. We need three down linemen in there with the MLBers blitzing sometimes. We aren't doing that at all. Basically, DJ is doing nothing but getting smoked in coverage. let the man blitz.

**BigMeatballDave** · 09-16-2012, 08:17 PM

Anybody remember what scheme Cowher ran here?

Seemed more aggressive.

**petegz28** · 09-16-2012, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

Anybody remember what scheme Cowher ran here?

Seemed more aggressive.

3-4 1 gap I do believe

Black Bob · 09-16-2012, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

Romeo's scheme is awesome just as long as the enemy offense leaves their tight end at home.

FAX

I disagree. We never shut down Gates until Romeo got to KC.

**notorious** · 09-16-2012, 08:17 PM

What I find absolutely reeruned is that aggressive has always been the way to go on defense. It isn't rocket science.

milkman · 09-16-2012, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

3-4 1 gap I do believe

Correct.

**Bowser** · 09-16-2012, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

Anybody remember what scheme Cowher ran here?

Seemed more aggressive.

Go find us the modern day equivalent to Derrick Thomas, Dan Saleamua, Kevin Ross, and Albert Lewis, and Romes would look as good as Cowher did back in those days.

**petegz28** · 09-16-2012, 08:19 PM

I always thought the 3-4 was supposed to be a pass-first defense because you could disguise the blitzes and the QB's\O-Lines would be confused about where the pressure was coming from.

With us it's Hali and that's it.

09-16-2012, 08:00 PM
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $2664127	Romeo's defensive scheme has got to go... It's old, it's soft and it doesn't work anymore. Did you see the Bills getting pressure up the middle? Might that have something to do with them actually trying to get pressure instead of just "eating up blockers"? We keep hearing it's the job of our d-line to consume blockers so the LB's can be free. Free to do what? I am a fan of the 3-4 but not this style of the 3-4. We are never going to get consistent pressure on a QB at all. Teams take Hali out of the game and their QB has all day to sit back. Meanwhile our "free" LB's are getting toasted over the middle or just plain leaving it wide open.
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Chiefs Pantalones GO CHIEFS!!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $7888717	I think our talent is fine, we need a more aggressive scheme. Berry is a beast that is being used oddly. Houston, Hali, we could do much more with those guys. Everyone. __________________ Don't be fooled by my username, I'm white.
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notorious Supporter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Who knows? Casino cash: $2795884	Sitting back and playing react defense is **ing stupid in today's NFL. You have to dictate the game with aggression. ** this franchise.
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09-16-2012, 08:16 PM	#23
Black Bob Veteran Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Mohawk Town Casino cash: $10004900	He's blitzing... it's just not the same way as last year. He's trying to get Berry back there and trying to get Poe one on one. He's just not blitzing the same way. We need three down linemen in there with the MLBers blitzing sometimes. We aren't doing that at all. Basically, DJ is doing nothing but getting smoked in coverage. let the man blitz.
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09-16-2012, 08:19 PM	#30
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $2664127	I always thought the 3-4 was supposed to be a pass-first defense because you could disguise the blitzes and the QB's\O-Lines would be confused about where the pressure was coming from. With us it's Hali and that's it.
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