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Old 12-10-2012, 06:45 PM   #1
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can anyone say with a straight face that this franchise's #1 priority is winning?

or that it cares about the fans more than anything?


of course not....everything about the Chiefs is uninspired, there is no passion within the organization and this translates into indifference (at best) and contempt (at worst) for the fanbase...

the idea that Clark could do nothing - and is responsible for nothing - beyond hiring a GM is also weird...every member of the Chiefs organization should be clear that winning a championship is the obsessive goal, and that cultivating the loyalty of the fans is job #1, and Clark has to send that message every day for it to be real...he has to have the passion and express it

anyone think that's true?

not me
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:47 PM   #2
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can anyone say with a straight face that this franchise's #1 priority is winning?

or that it cares about the fans more than anything?


of course not....everything about the Chiefs is uninspired, there is no passion within the organization and this translates into indifference (at best) and contempt (at worst) for the fanbase...

the idea that Clark could do nothing - and is responsible for nothing - beyond hiring a GM is also weird...every member of the Chiefs organization should be clear that winning a championship is the obsessive goal, and that cultivating the loyalty of the fans is job #1, and Clark has to send that message every day for it to be real...he has to have the passion and express it

anyone think that's true?

not me
I couldn't agree more. People are over simplifying Clark's role (or at least what his role should be) and the importance of the right culture in a business.
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:06 PM   #3
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I couldn't agree more. People are over simplifying Clark's role (or at least what his role should be) and the importance of the right culture in a business.
Its fair enough to point out that Clark, even with the hands off style he prefers, didnt interject himself to veto many basic, obvious bad decisions... he is far from perfect and certainly not blameless in this, he cant let some smooth talking pocket dictator make every call again.

But isnt it also fair enough to point out that he merits another swing, he took a big, surprising one with his first shot... 95% of the known football world considered it a HUGE, defining moment splash for this franchise...at the time *ahem* it screamed WE PLAN TO WIN.

Clark cares, and he isnt clueless, you think the world of his zoccer team... give him the respect and chance to do it with real football.
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:12 PM   #4
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Clark cares, and he isnt clueless, you think the world of his zoccer team... give him the respect and chance to do it with real football.
I don't think the world of his soccer team. He doesn't own Sporting Kansas City.

When the Hunt Sports group sold my soccer team an ownership group took it over that loves Kansas City and loves to win.

What that brought was a model pro sports franchise and the nicest soccer specific stadium in North America as well as a championship. And they are just getting started.

My soccer team beat both the soccer teams he still owns this season. Neither of them made the post season.
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:49 PM   #5
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can anyone say with a straight face that this franchise's #1 priority is winning?

or that it cares about the fans more than anything?
I have no idea. We'll find out when the season is over.
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:50 PM   #6
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:51 PM   #7
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I have no idea. We'll find out when the season is over.

the answer has been obvious for a long damn time
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:57 PM   #8
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I have no idea. We'll find out when the season is over.
Firing Pioli at the end of the season will be about money, not about either of the things you quoted. It will also be the first evidence since 2009 that the team even has an owner.
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Firing Pioli at the end of the season will be about money, not about either of the things you quoted. It will also be the first evidence since 2009 that the team even has an owner.
He'll also be losing money if he fires Pioli.
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:04 PM   #10
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It will also be the first evidence since 2009 that the team even has an owner.
Everyone under the Sun knows who the Cowboys owner is.

What has that done for them lately?
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:06 PM   #11
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What has that done for them lately?
Everyone knows Kraft as well.
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:12 PM   #12
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Everyone knows Kraft as well.
Not at all.
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Not at all.
What? You're clueless.
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:19 PM   #14
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What has that done for them lately?
Sorry that you still don't get we're saying, but after making it more than obvious and having seen you go in circles with others over and over on other fairly simple concepts, I'll just assume you're either unable to grasp such things or you're a relatively subtle troll. But don't worry, if he hires another shitty GM, I'm sure he'll be around in 2015 to fix it (oh shit, now I'm doing it...).
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Sorry that you still don't get we're saying, but after making it more than obvious and having seen you go in circles with others over and over on other fairly simple concepts, I'll just assume you're either unable to grasp such things or you're a relatively subtle troll. But don't worry, if he hires another shitty GM, I'm sure he'll be around in 2015 to fix it (oh shit, now I'm doing it...).
It appears that I have offended your other girlfriend.

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